I don't know. I have very little say in it.
HE WASN’T ALONE
Saudi airman’s colleagues filmed as he killed 3 at US naval base as cops detain 10 with others missing
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10504744/saudi-airmans-colleagues-us-naval-base-shooting/
Saudi airman’s colleagues filmed as he killed 3 at US naval base as cops detain 10 with others missing
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10504744/saudi-airmans-colleagues-us-naval-base-shooting/
When was that?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wir...14?cid=clicksource_4380645_null_headlines_hed
From the above link:
"...The shooting raised uneasy parallels to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, when many of the al-Qaida-linked hijackers who flew planes into the World Trade Center, Pentagon and Pennsylvania countryside were Saudi citizens who had flight training in the U.S.
The suspected Pensacola shooter, identified by U.S. officials as Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, was a member of the Saudi Air Force and was attending pilot training at the base. The officials provided his name on condition of anonymity because it has not yet been released publicly. Three people were killed in the shooting, and eight were injured, including two sheriff's deputies..."
Let me get this straight: The attacks on Sept 11, 2001 were at least in part carried out by Saudis who learned to fly airplanes here in the USA. And now, some many years later, what are we doing? Training more Saudis to fly airplanes here in the USA.
What's wrong with this picture? I'm afraid I just can't get it right in my head. I know one thing for sure; if this old Marine was the SecDef, we damn sure would NOT be doing this.
From the above link:
"...The shooting raised uneasy parallels to the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, when many of the al-Qaida-linked hijackers who flew planes into the World Trade Center, Pentagon and Pennsylvania countryside were Saudi citizens who had flight training in the U.S.
The suspected Pensacola shooter, identified by U.S. officials as Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, was a member of the Saudi Air Force and was attending pilot training at the base. The officials provided his name on condition of anonymity because it has not yet been released publicly. Three people were killed in the shooting, and eight were injured, including two sheriff's deputies..."
Let me get this straight: The attacks on Sept 11, 2001 were at least in part carried out by Saudis who learned to fly airplanes here in the USA. And now, some many years later, what are we doing? Training more Saudis to fly airplanes here in the USA.
What's wrong with this picture? I'm afraid I just can't get it right in my head. I know one thing for sure; if this old Marine was the SecDef, we damn sure would NOT be doing this.
IIRC, the ones 'trained' in 2001 were done through private lessons and private companies (i.e. not military). We've been training Saudis on military planes for a long time without issue.
This is true... rich Saudi princes and sons of prominent families get commissions in their military and become fighter pilots - it's a status thing. At least this is my understanding, I haven't been there. Just what I've read. But, I don't know if we should block all Saudis from ever obtaining flight (or any) training in the US. I mean, I really don't. It's like painting all gun owners with a broad brush because of some bad actors.
I think we should have a seriously stringent vetting process, for anyone flying military aircraft and obtaining military training to do so.
This IS just one more example of how gun-free zones don't work, though. It's a major crime to carry a firearm on a military base, right? I mean, I've skipped out on things like airshows because I have a firearm in my truck and don't have anywhere I can leave it, or don't want to. But did these rules stop this guy from bringing a gun on base? No. Do they use metal detectors and patdowns for every employee coming on base? No. I think NAS Pensacola has something like 20-25k employees? It's not feasible, and when you've literally got thousands of US military (and obviously other nations' military) on base, this guy coulda been brought down in literally seconds after he pulled out his weapon. Instead we have 3 dead and 8 wounded.
But should we ban people from any other country from obtaining military training in the U.S.? I don't know, we've had plenty of our own home-grown terrorists, too.
It's a symptom of a greater problem.
MURDER is an Evil spirit that begins in the heart [inner man-not physical pump] of mankind and has never been about guns.
Cain did not have a gun when he killed Abel.
Cain did not have a gun when he killed Abel.
Military bases have essentially been gun free zones for a long time. I joined under Reagan and served on Army, Navy and Air Force bases at home and abroad. Except for specific circumstances, nobody was armed and firearms were always tightly controlled.
It’s less of a political situation than it is a security, logistics, and property control issue.
The other half of this story pisses me off more than the shooter's motive/nationality. Evidently nothing was learned after Ft. Hood, or the lessons have been forgotten. It's not bad enough that we send people overseas to fight hobbled with BS ROE, and then put some of them on trial for doing their job. They also have to risk becoming sitting ducks in a classroom while training to do so.
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2019...aleb-watson-saved-countless-lives/4364516002/
"At the Naval Academy, Kaleb Watson was a small arms instructor, a wrestling coach and a captain of the rifle team, his father said."
"Joshua Kaleb Watson saved countless lives today with his own," wrote his brother, Adam Watson, late Friday. "After being shot multiple times he made it outside and told the first response team where the shooter was and those details were invaluable. He died a hero and we are beyond proud but there is a hole in our hearts that can never be filled.”
https://www.pnj.com/story/news/2019...aleb-watson-saved-countless-lives/4364516002/
"At the Naval Academy, Kaleb Watson was a small arms instructor, a wrestling coach and a captain of the rifle team, his father said."
"Joshua Kaleb Watson saved countless lives today with his own," wrote his brother, Adam Watson, late Friday. "After being shot multiple times he made it outside and told the first response team where the shooter was and those details were invaluable. He died a hero and we are beyond proud but there is a hole in our hearts that can never be filled.”
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