Kobe Bryant dies in helicopter crash

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Money did buy his civil settlement. It may or may not have bought his innocence. I remember following the ordeal as it happened, and the accuser was by all accounts bats#!t crazy. They found... *ahem* evidence of other men on her and still in her drawers when she was examined after the encounter. Kobe was not her first and/or last stop that evening. He may have been a sleazy adulterer, but it came out pretty evident she was consenting to a whole helluva lot from him and others that evening.
Exactly. We don't ever want to blame the victim, but...

I guess it's just the Me Too Movement. The sensitive snowflakes on here want to overlook the physical evidence and other things that suggest that the accuser was a little off kilter. That's ok. If you're accused of something, you're guilty and it's as simple as that. The sensitive OSA Me Toosters have my utmost respect and my sympathies.
 

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Exactly. We don't ever want to blame the victim, but...

I guess it's just the Me Too Movement. The sensitive snowflakes on here want to overlook the physical evidence and other things that suggest that the accuser was a little off kilter. That's ok. If you're accused of something, you're guilty and it's as simple as that. The sensitive OSA Me Toosters have my utmost respect and my sympathies.
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The physical evidence was that coby had his semen on her.
I'm not up and nor do I want to be up on the nuances of the rape laws, but I still wonder if she accused the other two? Were they rich? Did they have money and influence? Or were they common folk like you and I?
 

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The physical evidence was that coby had his semen on her.
I'm not up and nor do I want to be up on the nuances of the rape laws, but I still wonder if she accused the other two? Were they rich? Did they have money and influence? Or were they common folk like you and I?
I'm not sure what kind of guys they were. All we know for sure is that they had sex with her before or after kobey did. Just a couple guys, probably ordinary working stiffs that had sex with her that day between underwear changes. I won't speculate on their character or her's.
 

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I'll bet a criminal case in this situation wouldn't be dismissed by a prosecutor if it were you or me. Welcome to the second tier of criminals in the United States where money buys innocence and non disclosure agreements settle cases.
Charges get dropped against non-celebrities all the time. But if you're saying having money means you can hire a more motivated defense team and put on a better defense, that's a fair statement.
 

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Charges get dropped against non-celebrities all the time. But if you're saying having money means you can hire a more motivated defense team and put on a better defense, that's a fair statement.
Of course that's true. Have you ever been in a courtroom when a person is charged with a crime and represented by a public attorney? I have and it's not pretty. That same semen evidence would have sent a commoner to a long jail term and it has in the past.
BUT, I go back and look at those like Coby, Clinton, and a host of other politicians and federal appointees the liberal party has produced as criminals with the facts out there of actual crimes, that have never been prosecuted.
Was Kobe a good Republican?
 

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I get that people complain about the coverage and why Kobe gets so much for dribbling a ball while military, law enforcement and others don't get the news coverage they should or deserve. So, here are my thoughts and what the local Southern California coverage has been the last two days.

I'm a fair-weather Lakers/NBA fan. When the Lakers are good I will watch a lot more. The last 10 years or so, I have not watched much NBA even when the Clippers were doing good, so, my point is, I don't really have a dog in this argument but will tell you what I see and what the news reports. Even many of the local and well known sports casters and writes around Socal will tell you that Kobe wasn't always the best teammate in the back half of his career , he had the issues with the rape allegations and some of the other "issues" we all know about throughout his career with the Lakers.

This being said, what a lot of people across the country and the rest of the planet doesn't see is what he has done since his retirement. It is pretty incredible the person he has become since retirement and how he was with his kids and how involved he was. I would see his SUV around town a fair about for the size of celebrity he was. He would always attend the local soccer games his girls played in at the local elementary schools and would help coach and be just as involved as the rest of the parents on the sidelines. Acting like a normal dude. Stories of him going to work from 8am - 1pm then leaving every day to pick up his girls at school, take them home then, then back to work. He has his basketball academy which has been a blessing to many young kids, but I didn't hear much about it before this.

My point is he became much like every other dad in the area. He didn't make the news much but when he did it was always in a positive light. The local news is also covering the seven others killed in the crash much more than what is seen on the national news. I think Kobe's reputation locally was much different than what the rest of the country knew since his retirement. Anyways. Just my $.02.
 

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The physical evidence was that coby had his semen on her.

...and physical injuries that were consistent with assault and not consensual sex. The accuser was clearly violently choked in either case and there was blood (non-menstrual) found on Bryant's clothing that you would typically not see in a consensual encounter.

Under the same circumstances, any normal person without his status and level of legal representation probably would not have received as favorable of an outcome. Although, the accuser wearing underwear with another man's semen and pubic hair inside to the hospital for her examination didn't exactly help her cause.

Regardless he, at the very least, had multiple extramarital affairs. Including one that was long term with another woman during the same timeframe that left me with little respect for the guy for many years. From all appearances, he seemed to have become a better husband and a very devoted father which makes it all the more devastating if that's the case.
 

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