Civil War: Hypotheticals

TedKennedy · Oct 28, 2020

Slim Deal said:
I don't think the Constitution is supposed to 'prevent' anything'. IMHO it was a statement to world and England that the people on this land mass were forming a new country and a government over here and for England to FO because We The People were in charge over here, not them.

The Bill of Rights were a statement to the newly formed government about how this new government will be formed and what this government did not have the Right to do to the Citizens of the newly formed government.

The Prevention of anything is up to We The People.

"Shall not be..." that's designed to prevent. The Bill of Rights were added because of concerns that the constitution did not restrict government enough. If you look at the history of the ratification, you'll find plenty of politics, and big-government scumbags in there, just like it was 2020. The constitution and Bill of Rights is not some sacred document - it's a framework that was a compromise, and not nearly as good as the Articles of Confederation that preceded it.

The Bill of Rights was put in place to prevent what our government has become.

TedKennedy · Oct 28, 2020

dennishoddy said:
Yes there were options of staying out of that war, but what political party got us involved and which political party caused the US to lose it by mismanaging it when it could have been won?

The statist party was in charge, as always.

What would we have won?

Slim Deal · Oct 28, 2020

Judi said:
and the low IQ hordes descend to do what they do best… steal, destroy and injure people.

This horse crap reminds me of
"John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

Louro · Oct 28, 2020

dennishoddy said:
Oh but they did have communications.
The politicians caused that defeat.
After the 2nd Tet offensive the VC and the NVA were destroyed as organized fighting units for the most part. Beat to a pulp, demoralized and disorganized as most of their leadership was killed or captured.
It was the perfect time militarily for the US to mount a counter attack to take out the remainder of the enemy but LBJ wouldn’t allow it to happen.
He was afraid of offending Hanoi.
The US had many opportunities to end that war and didn’t take advantage of them.

Did we made the same mistake during DESRT STORM?

Louro · Oct 28, 2020

TedKennedy said:
I wonder if, after our next "civil war" that historians will one day look back at the 19th, 20th and 21st centuries in North America and conclude that our problems leading to "civil war II" were set on a course determined before "civil war I"?

We certainly ceased to be a Republic in 1865, and with the failure of States to secede and govern themselves, it seems inevitable that we all become servants of an ever-growing central power. The constitution has not prevented our current state of affairs, simply slowed the acceleration of the growth.

This is a deep thought...…. Every great civilization has failed, humans are the most destructive creature that ever existed.

Dale00 · Oct 28, 2020

There will be no civil war. The main players do not want a civil war....only a few fringe elements who shout a lot.
Main thing is not to celebrate too much publicly or insult the losers when Trump wins - there are too many unstable loons on the far left: do not trigger them....let them cool down.

MacFromOK · Oct 28, 2020

Dale00 said:
Main thing is not to celebrate too much publicly or insult the losers when Trump wins - there are too many unstable loons on the far left: do not trigger them....let then cool down.

Hmmm... I don't think they've cooled down from Hillary's loss.
:drunk2:

Gideon · Oct 28, 2020

"Civil War" implies competing elites vying for institutional power. In the West, our elites are generally in agreement that you and I have to be suppressed and eliminated so we can be replaced. There may be violence at the street level, but that's just part and parcel of anarcho-tyranny.

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