Trust ? Will you take the vaccine.

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davek

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What and how can an employer force you to get the vaccine? Even hospitals and EMS agencies are optional.

I'm not a lawyer or anything like it, but with Oklahoma being an at will state your employment can be terminated for any reason or no reason at all, other than the protections provided by law. They can't force you to take the vaccine, but I think they can make it a condition of employment. No vaccine, no job. Same as with flu vaccine for many health workers.
 

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The whole Zantac ordeal isnt exactly confidence inspiring either. It was approved and in use for what, 20 years?
Then all the sudden they realize it can cause cancer.

I've always wondered and I guess that's just part of my skepticism... But with cancer rates higher than they've ever been and continuing to grow, how do we know a person's cancer today, was not the product of vaccines decades prior? I especially believe, with the way this vaccine is designed, that long term adverse health effects are likely.

Is it possible that a vaccine can **** you up some 2 or 3 or 4 decades later? And for what? A less than 1% mortality rate for people 70 and under?

Some of you all are so confident and I just don't see how you can be. Your faith in the "medical establishment" is not something I'm even remotely capable of.
 

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I'm not a lawyer or anything like it, but with Oklahoma being an at will state your employment can be terminated for any reason or no reason at all, other than the protections provided by law. They can't force you to take the vaccine, but I think they can make it a condition of employment. No vaccine, no job. Same as with flu vaccine for many health workers.

Not worried about that. If we can rig an election, we can rig the books of who has and who doesn't have the vaccine.
 

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I've always wondered and I guess that's just part of my skepticism... But with cancer rates higher than they've ever been and continuing to grow, how do we know a person's cancer today, was not the product of vaccines decades prior? .

You are right about cancer rates rising, but the survival rates have doubled in the last 40 years, due to those evil pharmaceutical companies. The primary reason for the increase in cases is that people are living longer, again partially due to advances in meds. The last ten years of my career, I was with a 150 year old international company where one division is part of "Big Pharma". I spent a great deal of time working with that division, in their US research facility, talking with the doctors, researchers, etc. Those folks' primary daily thought is finding cures to the various things that plague us. I have total confidence in their efforts. Another interesting aspect of that business, is the amount of time spent waiting for .gov paperwork/approval. Then once a med is approved, they have only a few years to recover the millions/billions spent in the development, testing, and paperwork before the drug go generic. Revenues are indeed high, however profits are not always anywhere near what the public believes.
 

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I've always wondered and I guess that's just part of my skepticism... But with cancer rates higher than they've ever been and continuing to grow, how do we know a person's cancer today, was not the product of vaccines decades prior? I especially believe, with the way this vaccine is designed, that long term adverse health effects are likely.

Is it possible that a vaccine can **** you up some 2 or 3 or 4 decades later? And for what? A less than 1% mortality rate for people 70 and under?

Some of you all are so confident and I just don't see how you can be. Your faith in the "medical establishment" is not something I'm even remotely capable of.

I have faith in it because Ive worked in it my entire career. Witnessed the incredible advancements in the past 40 years firsthand. I also believe in evidence based medicine & the statistics which verify it. The bottom line on the vaccine is you have statistically a much greater risk of severe illness from the virus than any side effect of the vaccine. So, it’s your choice to take it, & it’s recommended to seek advice from your doc. Pretty simple & straight forward.
 
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You are right about cancer rates rising, but the survival rates have doubled in the last 40 years, due to those evil pharmaceutical companies. The primary reason for the increase in cases is that people are living longer, again partially due to advances in meds. The last ten years of my career, I was with a 150 year old international company where one division is part of "Big Pharma". I spent a great deal of time working with that division, in their US research facility, talking with the doctors, researchers, etc. Those folks' primary daily thought is finding cures to the various things that plague us. I have total confidence in their efforts. Another interesting aspect of that business, is the amount of time spent waiting for .gov paperwork/approval. Then once a med is approved, they have only a few years to recover the millions/billions spent in the development, testing, and paperwork before the drug go generic. Revenues are indeed high, however profits are not always anywhere near what the public believes.

Living longer and more likely full of chemical compounds via a liberal vaccine regimine... But it can't be that, it's just gotta be their age.
 

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I have faith in it because Ive worked in it my entire career. Witnessed the incredible advancements in the past 40 years firsthand. I also believe in evidence based medicine & the statistics which verify it. The bottom line on the vaccine is you have statistically a much greater risk of severe illness from the virus than any side effect of the vaccine. So, it’s your choice to take it, & it’s recommended to seek advice from your doc. Pretty simple & straight forward.

I'd rather face severe illness from a virus with a 99.99% survival rate for people 50 and under than open myself up to the known and unknown "side-effects" of the vaccine.

I think all of this is pretty hilarious and ridiculous. People are lemmings and easily manipulated... Just look at COVID. LOL we're not even experiencing excess mortality during the year of a pandemic than we have in previous years without one and people are allowing government to destroy their lives "to keep them safe." It's such a scam.

But Dr Fauci wants and needs you to be scared and he's directing the show... A known and admitted liar.

Humans are doomed.
 

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