5 steps to NFA (using a trust)

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tyromeo55

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A form 4 is just like a title to your vehicle. Until you have it in your possession the vehicle doesn't belong to you legally.

We will have to agree to disagree.

A title is proof of registration and payment of a tax. not ownership. A form 4 is the same.... Proof of registration and payment of a tax.
 

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I emailed some lawyer in Houston named Marie. She said items are not be added to your Schedule A until after approval.

A scenario was posed to me where ATF rejects. Technically the dealer cannot turn over the property therefore, you now have an item in your schedule A which you cannot legally own. She said it wasnt a big deal if you did it that way, but its not the *right* way to do it.

I guess *right* is equivalent to it isnt *right* to eat your main course with a salad fork. Can you? Yeah, just not the way its supposed to be done.
 

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I emailed some lawyer in Houston named Marie.

Sounds like a real good source!

I stand firm on my opinion. But, Martin is a stand up guy and has paid his 500 dollar SOT. So I would venture to say that a person would be in good hands following his procedure. I will just follow mine.
 

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Sounds like a real good source!

I stand firm on my opinion. But, Martin is a stand up guy and has paid his 500 dollar SOT. So I would venture to say that a person would be in good hands following his procedure. I will just follow mine.

Yes, almost as good as your quippy comment on it!

http://www.nfa-trusts.com/

Sorry, I messed up her name. Its Misty. Feel free to call or email her yourself.

Thanks fer playin!

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Until the form 4's are approved and returned to the dealer the item doesn't belong to the trust. How can he add it to his trust documents if he doesn't own it?

Interesting thread, haven't gone down the NFA rabbit hole yet.

You say the buyer can't 'own' it yet and therefore it can't be added to his trust yet.

That makes sense to me, so if that is true do you subsequently NOT accept payment and NOT produce a bill of sale until after the form 4 is approved?

Seems to me exchange of funds and a bill of sale prove ownership more than the form 4. But I know the red tape that must be navigated is insane so I don't expect the process to make much sense.
 
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