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  1. jhat

    Constitutional Carry Age

    How many cops are going to bust a 20 year old girl who was stopped for minor traffic and the cop sees a gun?
  2. jhat

    Speaking of Neck Beards

    What is a neckbeard? Haven't been on the site for a bit, and now seeing neckbeard everywhere.
  3. jhat

    Negligent Discharge = Felony & Prison Time in Some States?

    http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/deliverdocument.asp?citeid=68989&date=
  4. jhat

    So...Constitutional Carry is Now 1 Month Old...

    And no new Harper's. At least none that have hit the press.
  5. jhat

    Comments on Gun Control From the Unknowing

    Then the sheep should suffer their fate. They asked for it and they can have it. I could not care less.
  6. jhat

    Comments on Gun Control From the Unknowing

    Convince them that police clean up the mess after it happens. They rarely prevent the crime. The burden is upon the indivdual to protect him/herself or their families. Do you want a baseball bat to prevent rape or home invasion, or a pistol. Put it in simple terms.
  7. jhat

    Oklahoma SB1081, Oklahoma resistant to Federal Red Flag laws?

    How would you like your collection of Wilson's, Nighthawk's, Knight's or Larue's thrown in a box and tossed into the evidence room. Not to mention the police taking your weapons out for a fun shoot over the wknd. Makes me sick thinking about it.
  8. jhat

    Oklahoma SB1081, Oklahoma resistant to Federal Red Flag laws?

    Red flag laws present due process issues. Take weapons first then provide for a hearing.The gun owner must prove he/she is entitled to their property by showing they do not come within the stautory scheme for seizure. Those statutory schemes will vary by state. The burden of proof may well vary...
  9. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    He does appear to hold himself out as an expert. If in doubt, go to OSCN or consult legal counsel.
  10. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    If u have a permit and it is a handgun!
  11. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    I'll bet you will not see guns in the restaurant now!! Edit: Should have said rifles/shotguns.
  12. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    I have never been to Wilshire. Could the club be a leased establishment within the gun club (store) establishment? A seperate entity?
  13. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    Except that Harper claimed to be the authority, the auditor, was an outspoken member of OK2A. Ignorance of the law is not a valid defense. 1272.1 says what it says and is clear on the issue.
  14. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    I think the issue is, and will be, should this person possess and carry firearms, or should the state make an example of his conduct. I offer this as food for thought. Jump in HeyEng
  15. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    Even if Harper receives a deferred sentence, no conviction, he cannot possess a firearm during the probation period. http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69752 Since he apparently has no priors, I suspect that a deferred is a possible sentencing option.
  16. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    OK2A Spencer dosn't believe Harper broke the law.
  17. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    https://kfor.com/2019/11/15/judge-denies-bond-reduction-of-jailed-self-proclaimed-2nd-amendment-auditors-100k-bond/ Harper bond stays at 100k but cash only requirement lifted and he is out of jail. Not a good sign for Harper that Prater is involved. Normally his ADA'S would handle the case...
  18. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    Speaking of 1272.1, who sells low point beer anymore?
  19. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    Harper needs new atty. https://kfor.com/2019/11/14/clarity-on-oklahoma-permitless-carry-law-following-second-amendment-auditors-arrest/. http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69740 http://www.oscn.net/applications/oscn/DeliverDocument.asp?CiteID=69741 Atty relies on...
  20. jhat

    People carrying long guns into businesses

    Well put SMS!!!
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