I'm confused, wouldn't you have to inform the officer that you are a license holder and there is a firearm in the car and that would be the end of it? If there is someone that is not a law enforcement officer asking to search my car regardless of any sign there is legal authority that would support that unless I am greatly misunderstanding the situation.
I'm confused how posting a sign and searching vehicles amounts to a violation of the SDA?
Yeah, I guess if they denied you entry after you self identified...but on it's face, the search of a vehicle prior to entry isn't a violation of the SDA.
I'm just more conditioned to vehicle searches. Working for years at places that search you going in, and going out will do that. I can see how some could argue that it's a slippery slope though.
Yeah, my understanding would be that legally, the SDA does not prevent them from searching your vehicle, but that they could not prevent you from entering or parking on campus or leaving your car while on campus due to a legally carried firearm.
I said that the searches probably are in conflict with the SDA. It depends on what the guard at the gate says and does. Not having gone through the gate I can only speculate. But the effect is chilling and makes it appear that students, staff and visitors are being denied their right under the SDA to have firearms in their vehicle if they have a concealed carry permit.
The article is congratulatory to tone towards Langston for having done a good job in protecting their people. No doubt the searches are being done with the best of intent but this is the kind of incremental encroachment that lays a foundation for further loss of freedom. I say that depriving people of the means to defend themselves is wrong, and that is what appears to be happening.
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Maybe the university could be more specific as to what they're searching for?
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I want to make this very clear. I am not affiliated with the LUPD or administration.
The university police and the administration decided that placing the signs and conducting random searches would increase the safety and decrease the criminal activity. In the student handbook the students do sign that they have read the rules and the rules include statements about search and seizure.
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