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sinistersixguns · Sep 15, 2009

Hello all from a newb from KS.

I am going to be heading your way (OKC) for a wedding in a few weeks and wanted to get a little clarification before I go. The rehearsal is at Cattlemens in OKC, and from what I've gathered it is prohibited from carrying in any place that serves low-point alcohol? Do any of you have any knowledge about this issue?

Also, does Oklahoma allow concealed carry in churches? In KS it is ok unless the property is posted with a 'gun-buster'.

Many thanks!

RyansFortyFives · Sep 15, 2009

You can carry in church, yes.

You also might want to make sure there isn't a school on the premises, and the school is not in session.

skyydiver · Sep 15, 2009

You're good to go in both places. Without getting into specifics, Cattlemen's is a restaurant, and they are OK. Churches are not mentioned at all, I believe. Don't take my word for it, the SDA is linked here somewhere.

NikatKimber · Sep 15, 2009

Church is good to go here in OK. Not sure if they are considered a business (which can post) but even if they are, I have yet to see one that has a "gunbuster" sign anyways.

The SDA says no carry in a "bar" but as skyydiver hinted at, the definition is not clear what makes a bar a bar, and when a restaurant could be a bar.

But just serving alcohol does not make it off limits. You're good to go at Cattlemans.

.45Fats · Sep 15, 2009

NikatKimber said:
Church is good to go here in OK. Not sure if they are considered a business (which can post) but even if they are, I have yet to see one that has a "gunbuster" sign anyways.

The SDA says no carry in a "bar" but as skyydiver hinted at, the definition is not clear what makes a bar a bar, and when a restaurant could be a bar.

But just serving alcohol does not make it off limits. You're good to go at Cattlemans.

I would guess that they use a similar definition to the one that was used for the anti smoking laws, IE if a location/buisness etc... revenue is 51% or greater in alchoholic drinks it is considered a drinking establishment(legal for smoking less so for carry)

NOTE: I am not a Lawyer, LEO, or Fairy Godparent this is just my PERSONAL understanding.

Old Fart · Sep 15, 2009

More importantly get ready for a good meal.

Shooter00 · Sep 15, 2009

i believe that to be considered a bar, the establishment's primary revenue source would come from the sale of booze.

blutch · Sep 15, 2009

CC or not, get the lamb fries. Man up.

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Milezc9 · Sep 15, 2009

couple years back a guy carried to cattlemans and came out really late at night. midnight or so. couple of gang bangers tried to jump him and he had to shoot and kill one that had a bat or pole or something. I'd carry there if I were you. Its fine during the day but heads up at night.

Stillhunter · Sep 16, 2009

Carry at Cattlemen's = OK
Carry in that area = Recommended
Breakfast at Cattlemens = Highly recommended

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