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  1. #16

    Default Re: Concealed weapon in private business

    Ive moved a few times over the years and have had to wait in between while waiting to get my permit in the new state I moved to. In Oklahoma when I first moved here and was waiting on my permit,when out driving around after having been to the range or whatever I always carried the pistol out of reach sitting on the backseat of my Blazer with the case unzipped and it laying open with the loaded mags in the console. Now,I probably could have stretched a little to reach it in case I needed it,but I always made sure I wasnt within any kind of easily reachable distance just in case I got pulled over.

    I had a wreck at 71st and Mingo in my car during my waiting period,a girl in a Navigator came thru the light and Tboned me,totalling my Nissan 300ZX. I had just been to the range at Tulsa Firearms and my range bag was in the back seat with 3 unloaded pistols in it but the boxes of ammo were still in the bag instead of in my trunk,even though no mag was loaded up. So I'm sitting on the side of the road with a broken leg waiting on the ambulance and my wife. I told the cop about the guns and ammo in the bag. He didnt even go over and check them out. I told him that I had just been to the range and I was sure scared to tell him too because the ammo was in the same bag as the pistols,although I had no loaded mags. He was cool though. I told him I had had my permit in California then moved to Iowa where I got a permit, and now was in waiting for my Oklahoma permit. He said dont sweat it. When my wife got there she transferred them to her trunk. I'm pretty sure I was not fully in compliance tho with the ammo in the same bag as the guns and they were zipped up inside the bag and not in sight,even though it was obviously a range bag if you knew what one was.
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  2. #17

    Default Re: Concealed weapon in private business

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Without a permit, the only legal way to transport a firearm in Oklahoma is to have it out, in plain sight, with the ammunition located in a seperate compartment, unattainable by any person in the vehicle. This is why rifles in gun racks (not seen as much now days) is legal.
    Danny

    Your statement is simply not true.


    TITLE 21 § 1289.7. Firearms in vehicles

    FIREARMS IN VEHICLES

    Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle, shotgun or pistol, open and unloaded,
    at any time. For purposes of this section “open” means the firearm is transported in plain view, in a case designed for
    carrying firearms, which case is wholly or partially visible, in a gun rack mounted in the vehicle, in an exterior locked
    compartment or a trunk of a vehicle.


    Any person, except a convicted felon, may transport in a motor vehicle a rifle or shotgun concealed behind a seat
    of the vehicle or within the interior of the vehicle provided the rifle or shotgun is not clip, magazine or chamber loaded.

    The authority to transport a clip or magazine loaded rifle or shotgun shall be pursuant to Section 1289.13 of this title.

    Any person who is the operator of a vehicle or is a passenger in any vehicle wherein another person who is
    licensed pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, Sections 1 through 26 of this act, to carry a concealed handgun
    and is carrying a concealed handgun or has concealed the handgun in such vehicle, shall not be deemed in violation of
    the provisions of this section provided the licensee is in or near the vehicle.

    TITLE 21 § 1289.13. Transporting a loaded firearm

    TRANSPORTING A LOADED FIREARM

    Except as otherwise provided by the provisions of the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act or another provision of law, it
    shall be unlawful to transport a loaded pistol, rifle or shotgun in a land borne motor vehicle over a public highway or
    roadway. However, a rifle or shotgun may be transported clip or magazine loaded and not chamber loaded when
    transported in an exterior locked compartment of the vehicle or trunk of the vehicle or in the interior compartment of the
    vehicle notwithstanding the provisions of Section 1289.7 of this title when the person is in possession of a valid
    handgun license pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act.

    Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall be punished as provided in Section 1289.15 of this title.

    Any person who is the operator of a vehicle or is a passenger in any vehicle wherein another person who is
    licensed pursuant to the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act to carry a concealed handgun and is carrying a concealed handgun
    or has concealed a handgun or rifle or shotgun in such vehicle shall not be deemed in violation of the provisions of this
    section provided the licensee is in or near the vehicle.

  3. #18

    Default Re: Concealed weapon in private business

    Be smart and get a CCW license then carry concealed and don't ask or tell anyone anything and remember forgivness is easier to get than permission.

    I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6

  4. #19

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    I got my ccw license without taking the class. I work as an armed security officer and got a waiver for the license when I finsihed the armed portion of my C.L.E.E.T training. As cleet exceeds the states requirements on training I didnt need to take the class but am still a bit fuzzy on cerytain parts. I carry my xdm 40 as my duty pistol at work. Its a bit too big to totally conceal unless I wear a very baggy shirt. The grip sticks out quite a bit even tho you cant see the gun visually. I guess legally I cant carry it as you can still detect that I have it? Is that true? I am looking for maybe getting a subcompact or revolver. Any thoughts on the subject would help.

  5. #20

    Default Re: Concealed weapon in private business

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Without a permit, the only legal way to transport a firearm in Oklahoma is to have it out, in plain sight, with the ammunition located in a seperate compartment, unattainable by any person in the vehicle. This is why rifles in gun racks (not seen as much now days) is legal.
    Wrong.

    And not only is the post above correct reagrding transport but there was a case recently within the last couple of years where an indivdual under 21years old had a pistol on the passenger seat or center console unloaded with the action locked open and a loaded magazine sitting next to it, he was attacked in his vehicle and shot the attacker and walked away justifiable homocide and it was determined he was transporting his weapon in a legal manner.

    It was BA or Talequah don't remember much about it, I think it was posted here on OSA as well.
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