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Lurker66

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I never know how to respond when someone thanks me for my service. Good manners dictate that I say "you're welcome" and you are. That being said I've just never seen it as something that someone should thank me for if that makes any sense. It's been my distinct privilege to do what I do both in an active duty and reserve capacity. I've learned some great lessons, made some great friends, and had a lot of fun along the way. It's something that I'm thankful I've gotten to participate in so when people thank me for it I feel like I should thank them back for helping subsidize the experience. So thank you as well.

very well said. That's my sentiments.
 

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If our government (you know, the one that theoretically reflects the will of our people) decides to give aid, is that forcing my neighbors to pay? If so, and you have a problem with paying taxes, take it up with Uncle Sam. Like I said, I'm torn. The fact that so any people can turn a blind eye when a sovereign nation is invaded by another, well that's just troubling. It's almost like we'll never learn the lesson that isolationism doesn't work. On the other hand, our foreign policy of policing the world through constant intervention is just as bad. The right answer is somewhere between the two extremes.

As far as the "will of the people" goes, we lawyers have a saying: a legal fiction, in the diction of the kitchen, is a crock. Then there is the more minor point that the national government would be breaking it's own highest law by inserting itself into foreign wars without a declaration from Congress... but if there was any doubt, recent events have made it abundantly clear that the leaders of the government do not feel bound by any law. Laws are meant for us Plebians... the political class plays by their own set of rules.

I don't think the U.S. government has ever given isolationism a fair chance. As far as foreign entanglements go, I am of the opinion that we would all have been a lot better off if the government had stuck with the John Quincy Adams doctrine over the last Century and stayed out of Europe's bloodbaths, the Sino-Japanese war, and every other conflict since... but then it's hard to prove a negative. Of course we DO know the consequences of those particular interventions... half of the globe delivered into the grasp of a collection of the worst tyrannies in human history, probably the worst of which is still alive, well, and more powerful than ever (the Chinese Communist Party).

Fear mongering aside, it is hard for me to imagine how things could have ended up any worse if Americans had minded their own business all last Century and let the collectivists blast each other into oblivion.
 

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Obama, Kerry, Nuland and the parasites are on the losing side of this event. I especially get a kick from all the "conservative" talkers on the radio who continue with the same mantra that Putin is trying to rebuild the former Soviet Union. They are clueless since they apparently have no concept of who Putin is or what he is intent on achieving. The fact is that Putin is a Christian and a loyal member of the Russian Orthodox Church which the Tribe hates as they have always hated Jesus Christ (for you so called Christians). Putin is righting the wrongs of the Bolshevik Revolution and is methodically rebuilding Russia to it's Christian ways under Nicholas II. The homosexual uproar during Sochi is an example of his cleansing of society (in the US & West homosexuality is being pushed constantly onto society by the Tribe media). All very fascinating to me as the US talks crap while siding with the demonic Tribe who hates Jesus. So much for the US being a "Christian nation"... lol. What a nation of useful tax livestock idiots and dupes.
 

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Obama, Kerry, Nuland and the parasites are on the losing side of this event. I especially get a kick from all the "conservative" talkers on the radio who continue with the same mantra that Putin is trying to rebuild the former Soviet Union. They are clueless since they apparently have no concept of who Putin is or what he is intent on achieving. The fact is that Putin is a Christian and a loyal member of the Russian Orthodox Church which the Tribe hates as they have always hated Jesus Christ (for you so called Christians). Putin is righting the wrongs of the Bolshevik Revolution and is methodically rebuilding Russia to it's Christian ways under Nicholas II. The homosexual uproar during Sochi is an example of his cleansing of society (in the US & West homosexuality is being pushed constantly onto society by the Tribe media). All very fascinating to me as the US talks crap while siding with the demonic Tribe who hates Jesus. So much for the US being a "Christian nation"... lol. What a nation of useful tax livestock idiots and dupes.

poop. You only know Putin from what the media tells you. You lump American "christians" in with Russian Orthodox christians....BS....that 2 very different ideas of Christianity. The idea of Jesus is about the only thing RO's have in common with evangelicalism. The Russian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church would prefer Evangelicalism go away.
 

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Obama, Kerry, Nuland and the parasites are on the losing side of this event. I especially get a kick from all the "conservative" talkers on the radio who continue with the same mantra that Putin is trying to rebuild the former Soviet Union. They are clueless since they apparently have no concept of who Putin is or what he is intent on achieving. The fact is that Putin is a Christian and a loyal member of the Russian Orthodox Church which the Tribe hates as they have always hated Jesus Christ (for you so called Christians). Putin is righting the wrongs of the Bolshevik Revolution and is methodically rebuilding Russia to it's Christian ways under Nicholas II. The homosexual uproar during Sochi is an example of his cleansing of society (in the US & West homosexuality is being pushed constantly onto society by the Tribe media). All very fascinating to me as the US talks crap while siding with the demonic Tribe who hates Jesus. So much for the US being a "Christian nation"... lol. What a nation of useful tax livestock idiots and dupes.


I thought you were going away?
 

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poop. You only know Putin from what the media tells you. You lump American "christians" in with Russian Orthodox christians....BS....that 2 very different ideas of Christianity. The idea of Jesus is about the only thing RO's have in common with evangelicalism. The Russian Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church would prefer Evangelicalism go away.

You assume much about me although you don't know me personally. So your viewpoint is the first word you typed... poop.

Having said that, I'm pretty much familair with the different themes of Christianity having been raised in a home by two Europeans who practiced Christianity orthodoxy. Western Christianity is different from Orthodox Christianity in that the west talks but doesn't live by the creed of Jesus. In my personal life, I reject all religion as bullcrap. However, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And since I still have family in Europe events in that part of the world interests me. Aside from listening to ignorant conservative talkers on American radio for sh!ts and giggles when I'm radio surfing between classic rock stations, I ignore western media sources for the most part as it is controlled by the Tribe.

As is typical of most of the armed socialists on this forum, such comments only cause me to laugh and shake my head in pity. No cure for stupid...
 

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Obama, Kerry, Nuland and the parasites are on the losing side of this event. I especially get a kick from all the "conservative" talkers on the radio who continue with the same mantra that Putin is trying to rebuild the former Soviet Union. They are clueless since they apparently have no concept of who Putin is or what he is intent on achieving. The fact is that Putin is a Christian and a loyal member of the Russian Orthodox Church which the Tribe hates as they have always hated Jesus Christ (for you so called Christians). Putin is righting the wrongs of the Bolshevik Revolution and is methodically rebuilding Russia to it's Christian ways under Nicholas II. The homosexual uproar during Sochi is an example of his cleansing of society (in the US & West homosexuality is being pushed constantly onto society by the Tribe media). All very fascinating to me as the US talks crap while siding with the demonic Tribe who hates Jesus. So much for the US being a "Christian nation"... lol. What a nation of useful tax livestock idiots and dupes.

Dutch, I have to ask, do you agree with what Putin's goals are as stated by you?
 

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