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<blockquote data-quote="RidgeHunter" data-source="post: 2778655" data-attributes="member: 4319"><p>The ever-compassionate and pragmatic minds at OSA never cease to amaze me. </p><p></p><p>About half of miscarriages happen before the woman misses a period or is aware she's pregnant. How, exactly, do you propose these criminal investigations be handled, Jack? Should every pre-menopausal, sexually active woman being subject to daily monitoring by a physician in a system that is overseen by the police? </p><p></p><p>Manslaughter if her behavior cause it, huh? Let's throw out some common factors that increase the risk of miscarriage: age of mother and obesity. 36% of American women are overweight. 50 out of every 1,000 live births in America are mothers 35-39 - there's a few older than 39 as well and the birth rate for older women is growing while the birth rate for younger women declines.</p><p></p><p>So, common sense tells me we have hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of obese and advanced age women having miscarriages every year in America, most without ever realizing they were pregnant. Their behavior (eating too much, lack of exercise, not being sterilized after age 35) increased their risk of miscarriage there she is by your definition, guilty of manslaughter. </p><p></p><p>What's the sentence for your hypothetical manslaughter or murder charge? Because manslaughter generally carries a pretty stiff one - murder even more so. Execution, years in prison, lengthy trials, public defenders, probation monitoring. How will our criminal justice system handle this? What's your proposal? Who pays for it?</p><p></p><p>How do the logistics of this work? Ready to explain, or are you good with this drive-by posting "life begins at conception" crap? Ready to make your wives, daughters, and sisters suspects? Anybody? Something millions of women unknowingly flush down the toilet is not a more important than the woman to any reasonable person.</p><p></p><p>That 37-year-old woman who has a miscarriage - what's her sentence for manslaughter? Church member, healthy, financially stable. Her behavior caused it. Pregnancies over 35 are generally classified as high-risk. How do we punish her? Tell her kids mommy kills babies because she's selfish? Mommy needs a few years in the pen because of her reckless behavior? What about the obese stay-at-home mom down the street? She's trying for another kid. How do we monitor what comes out of her body in the bathroom for manslaughtered life? At 40 the risk of miscarriage quadruples compared to women under 35. That's egregious at 40 year-old woman would have sex without being sterilized - do we bump her sentence up for being wanton disregard for human life? Moms 40+ are becoming more and more common. Think most get pregnant right off the bat? I don't. Better build those prisons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RidgeHunter, post: 2778655, member: 4319"] The ever-compassionate and pragmatic minds at OSA never cease to amaze me. About half of miscarriages happen before the woman misses a period or is aware she's pregnant. How, exactly, do you propose these criminal investigations be handled, Jack? Should every pre-menopausal, sexually active woman being subject to daily monitoring by a physician in a system that is overseen by the police? Manslaughter if her behavior cause it, huh? Let's throw out some common factors that increase the risk of miscarriage: age of mother and obesity. 36% of American women are overweight. 50 out of every 1,000 live births in America are mothers 35-39 - there's a few older than 39 as well and the birth rate for older women is growing while the birth rate for younger women declines. So, common sense tells me we have hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of obese and advanced age women having miscarriages every year in America, most without ever realizing they were pregnant. Their behavior (eating too much, lack of exercise, not being sterilized after age 35) increased their risk of miscarriage there she is by your definition, guilty of manslaughter. What's the sentence for your hypothetical manslaughter or murder charge? Because manslaughter generally carries a pretty stiff one - murder even more so. Execution, years in prison, lengthy trials, public defenders, probation monitoring. How will our criminal justice system handle this? What's your proposal? Who pays for it? How do the logistics of this work? Ready to explain, or are you good with this drive-by posting "life begins at conception" crap? Ready to make your wives, daughters, and sisters suspects? Anybody? Something millions of women unknowingly flush down the toilet is not a more important than the woman to any reasonable person. That 37-year-old woman who has a miscarriage - what's her sentence for manslaughter? Church member, healthy, financially stable. Her behavior caused it. Pregnancies over 35 are generally classified as high-risk. How do we punish her? Tell her kids mommy kills babies because she's selfish? Mommy needs a few years in the pen because of her reckless behavior? What about the obese stay-at-home mom down the street? She's trying for another kid. How do we monitor what comes out of her body in the bathroom for manslaughtered life? At 40 the risk of miscarriage quadruples compared to women under 35. That's egregious at 40 year-old woman would have sex without being sterilized - do we bump her sentence up for being wanton disregard for human life? Moms 40+ are becoming more and more common. Think most get pregnant right off the bat? I don't. Better build those prisons. [/QUOTE]
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