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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 1678560" data-attributes="member: 3099"><p>How are you getting "apples to apples" by limiting the revolver to a snub nose barrel length with your "dimension box"? The O/P said he had to use a 4" barreled revolver? Spin it all you want but 9mm never has been and never will be even close to an equivalent of the .357 Magnum. You whip out a non-SAMMI pressured +P+ round to compare with a SAMMI compliant round tha can be fired in any .357 chambered gun on the market? And just think, I didn't even go back to the ballistics of the .357 magnum when it was originally introduced. You wanna compare the 9mm to a 158 grain bullet at 1450 instead of a 125 grain? 'Cuz that what it was back in the day.</p><p></p><p>Hopefully soon I'm going to have some chrono data that shows a hot loaded mag with a slow burning powder shot out of a short barrel snubbie is still faster than a hot loaded mag with a faster powder shot out of the same snubbie. There's the theory that states that the quicker powder will actually generate more velocity because it burns more completely. I'm going to do my own testing to find out soon, now that I have my chrono back up and running. But I don't buy that theory and the ballistics data of Buffalo Bore's ammo makes me think that they have figured it out and got it down to a science. Those guys have some sort of juju going on that all the big ammunition makers don't, or aren't interested in, I'm not sure which.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowrider, post: 1678560, member: 3099"] How are you getting "apples to apples" by limiting the revolver to a snub nose barrel length with your "dimension box"? The O/P said he had to use a 4" barreled revolver? Spin it all you want but 9mm never has been and never will be even close to an equivalent of the .357 Magnum. You whip out a non-SAMMI pressured +P+ round to compare with a SAMMI compliant round tha can be fired in any .357 chambered gun on the market? And just think, I didn't even go back to the ballistics of the .357 magnum when it was originally introduced. You wanna compare the 9mm to a 158 grain bullet at 1450 instead of a 125 grain? 'Cuz that what it was back in the day. Hopefully soon I'm going to have some chrono data that shows a hot loaded mag with a slow burning powder shot out of a short barrel snubbie is still faster than a hot loaded mag with a faster powder shot out of the same snubbie. There's the theory that states that the quicker powder will actually generate more velocity because it burns more completely. I'm going to do my own testing to find out soon, now that I have my chrono back up and running. But I don't buy that theory and the ballistics data of Buffalo Bore's ammo makes me think that they have figured it out and got it down to a science. Those guys have some sort of juju going on that all the big ammunition makers don't, or aren't interested in, I'm not sure which. [/QUOTE]
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