10mm1911 said:Mike Brown wrote:
[I]If you haven't seen your kydex holster fail in ten years, my guess is you haven't been training very hard with it. That means hard wrestling where you are picked up and deposited hard on the ground and continued to fight from there. It means being punched in the face and disoriented prior to a clinched gun grab or takedown.
Nobody, that I know of, is doing this type of training in this immediate area on a wide-scale basis and only a handful are doing it anywhere. If you have trained with someone who is, consider yourself fortunate.
However if you had, and I am not trying to be condescending or arrogant, but you probably would already have seen the answer firsthand.[/I]
I am a legal, civilian, concealed carrier. My best guess is that when I'm involved in a weapon retention bug tussle, chances are best that it will involve an already drawn handgun. I don't discount the possibility of a fight over a holstered handgun, I just see a fight over a handgun IN MY HANDS as the most probable. I spend the majority of my training time and efforts on what I think is most probable. Yep, we have trained and rassled pretty hard over dummy handguns, up to and including trading knees to the groin!
Now if I were in the habit of wearing a uniform, and a plainly visible handgun, I suspect I'd spent the bulk of my training time and efforts on protecting a pistol that's still IN THE HOLSTER. I suspect we're doing pretty similar things, just from very different perspectives.
Trouble is,no matter how good you are,you might be on the ground before you can draw.
You have to always consider that possibility.