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<blockquote data-quote="Duck L&#039;Orange" data-source="post: 2840339" data-attributes="member: 7814"><p>9mm</p><p>+flat shooting</p><p>+higher capacity</p><p>+adequate wounding potential</p><p>+cheap</p><p>+guns chambered in 9mm are cheaper/smaller than .45</p><p>-higher pressure round than .45, so more wear on pistol</p><p>-"snappier" perceived recoil, see above</p><p>-less permanent cavity, offers less muzzle energy than .45 at +P loads</p><p>-if you like ergonomics of 1911, 9mm not best choice in that platform</p><p></p><p>.45 acp</p><p>+lower pressure bullet in heavier-built guns mean they last forever</p><p>+offers almost as much muzzle energy as 10mm auto or .357 sig (with some overlap) in +P loads, while still being manageable recoil and roughly 50% less chamber pressure</p><p>+lower pressure, heavier bullets, high bore-axis (1911 only), and heavier designs of .45 make recoil more of a "push", with often less visible muzzle rise</p><p>+if you're a 1911 fan (I don't own one, but the most accurate and effective/quick follow up shots I've ever made came from a Springfield GI I shot once), the .45 acp is the best and most proven caliber for this platform</p><p>-more expensive</p><p>-lower capacity guns despite larger frame size (especially in newer polymer service pistols)</p><p>-not as flat shooting at 100 yards</p><p>-sometimes inferior or only marginally different terminal ballistics (actual penetration and cavitation) to 9mm or other calibers, despite its advocates</p><p></p><p>Both rounds have almost EXACTLY the same lethality. In fact, most handguns all have similar lethality till you step up to .357 magnum or 10mm auto. You'll bleed out just as easily from any gunshot, and a CNS hit from any caliber is just as incapacitating for the most part as well.</p><p></p><p>I'm trying to sh**post less. I guess I'd start by making a serious reply to a 9mm vs .45 thread</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Duck L'Orange, post: 2840339, member: 7814"] 9mm +flat shooting +higher capacity +adequate wounding potential +cheap +guns chambered in 9mm are cheaper/smaller than .45 -higher pressure round than .45, so more wear on pistol -"snappier" perceived recoil, see above -less permanent cavity, offers less muzzle energy than .45 at +P loads -if you like ergonomics of 1911, 9mm not best choice in that platform .45 acp +lower pressure bullet in heavier-built guns mean they last forever +offers almost as much muzzle energy as 10mm auto or .357 sig (with some overlap) in +P loads, while still being manageable recoil and roughly 50% less chamber pressure +lower pressure, heavier bullets, high bore-axis (1911 only), and heavier designs of .45 make recoil more of a "push", with often less visible muzzle rise +if you're a 1911 fan (I don't own one, but the most accurate and effective/quick follow up shots I've ever made came from a Springfield GI I shot once), the .45 acp is the best and most proven caliber for this platform -more expensive -lower capacity guns despite larger frame size (especially in newer polymer service pistols) -not as flat shooting at 100 yards -sometimes inferior or only marginally different terminal ballistics (actual penetration and cavitation) to 9mm or other calibers, despite its advocates Both rounds have almost EXACTLY the same lethality. In fact, most handguns all have similar lethality till you step up to .357 magnum or 10mm auto. You'll bleed out just as easily from any gunshot, and a CNS hit from any caliber is just as incapacitating for the most part as well. I'm trying to sh**post less. I guess I'd start by making a serious reply to a 9mm vs .45 thread [/QUOTE]
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