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<blockquote data-quote="Seedy" data-source="post: 2021049" data-attributes="member: 10694"><p>I wrote this for all the folks out there who need a little help dealing with gun control advocates on social media. Please feel free to share.</p><p></p><p><strong>How to not sound like an idiot when speaking to a firearm enthusiast about gun control.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p>Here's a few pointers for those of you who want to have a "gun control" discussion with me or any other firearms enthusiast.</p><p></p><p>"Magazine" vs. "Clips"</p><p></p><p>Those things you want to ban are "high capacity magazines", not "high capacity clips". "Clips" are generally associated with WWI and WWII era rifles. They are a cartridges linked together on a metal "clip"...hence the name. Google "M1 Garand" to see a clip fed rifle. Magazines (those things you insert into rifles and handguns) hold cartridges/ammo internally. Which brings me to tip #2:</p><p></p><p>"bullets"</p><p></p><p>The things that come out of muzzle of the gun are the bullets. The things you put into the magazines are cartridges, ammunition or ammo. The bullet is just the lead/steel/copper part at the end of the cartridge. Also, while funny, the Chris Rock "boolit control" bit is a sophomoric argument and GUESS WHAT? We've heard it before...</p><p></p><p>"Assault Rifles"</p><p></p><p>Personally, I hate this phrase. It is a media buzzword that makes as much sense to me as "Arson Matches", "Stab Knife" or "Pornography Camera". The "AR" in AR-15 DOES NOT STAND FOR ASSAULT RIFLE. It stands for "Armalite" the name of the company that first made them. As much as I despise the term "Assault Rifle" it IS a valid firearms term...however it is EXTREMELY MISUSED. The phrase first shows up as a rough translation of a WWII German word and it specifically refers to: A Select fire (burst/full auto capable NOT a semi-auto) rifle that fires an intermediate round (larger than a handgun round, smaller than a traditional Rifle round). NOTE that "Assault Rifles" as they are properly defined are ALREADY HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE NFA (National Firearms Act). In fact all legally owned TRUE Assault Rifles in the United States are registered with BATFE,their owners have undergone extensive background checks before taking possession of the assault rifle, paid a $200 tax AND the BATFE not only requires the weapons be locked up but actually has the authority to knock on the door of an Assault Rifle owner AT ANY TIME and request to inspect the weapon!</p><p></p><p>"Automatic" vs "Semi-Auto" vs "Select Fire"</p><p></p><p>Let's be specific. When you talk about "automatics" do you mean a "full auto/Select fire" weapon where one trigger pull = more than one round fired, or do you mean a "Semi-Auto" where one trigger pull = one round fired?</p><p></p><p>Hunting and "Sporting Purposes"</p><p></p><p>Telling me that I shouldn't be able to own a specific firearm because it "has no sporting purpose" or "isn't used to hunt" holds no weight. The Second Amendment doesn't talk about "sporting purposes" or "hunting". If your argument includes "no sporting purpose" or "can't hunt with" as to why you want to infringe on my right to bear arms, please throw that argument out and start over.</p><p></p><p>Registration</p><p></p><p>Here in Oklahoma MOST firearms (all those that don't fall under the NFA) are not registered. We don't "register" firearms here in Oklahoma. The exception are weapons that fall under the NFA: Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled shotguns, suppressors, machine guns (select fire/full auto), destructive devices and the like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Seedy, post: 2021049, member: 10694"] I wrote this for all the folks out there who need a little help dealing with gun control advocates on social media. Please feel free to share. [B]How to not sound like an idiot when speaking to a firearm enthusiast about gun control. [/b] Here's a few pointers for those of you who want to have a "gun control" discussion with me or any other firearms enthusiast. "Magazine" vs. "Clips" Those things you want to ban are "high capacity magazines", not "high capacity clips". "Clips" are generally associated with WWI and WWII era rifles. They are a cartridges linked together on a metal "clip"...hence the name. Google "M1 Garand" to see a clip fed rifle. Magazines (those things you insert into rifles and handguns) hold cartridges/ammo internally. Which brings me to tip #2: "bullets" The things that come out of muzzle of the gun are the bullets. The things you put into the magazines are cartridges, ammunition or ammo. The bullet is just the lead/steel/copper part at the end of the cartridge. Also, while funny, the Chris Rock "boolit control" bit is a sophomoric argument and GUESS WHAT? We've heard it before... "Assault Rifles" Personally, I hate this phrase. It is a media buzzword that makes as much sense to me as "Arson Matches", "Stab Knife" or "Pornography Camera". The "AR" in AR-15 DOES NOT STAND FOR ASSAULT RIFLE. It stands for "Armalite" the name of the company that first made them. As much as I despise the term "Assault Rifle" it IS a valid firearms term...however it is EXTREMELY MISUSED. The phrase first shows up as a rough translation of a WWII German word and it specifically refers to: A Select fire (burst/full auto capable NOT a semi-auto) rifle that fires an intermediate round (larger than a handgun round, smaller than a traditional Rifle round). NOTE that "Assault Rifles" as they are properly defined are ALREADY HEAVILY REGULATED BY THE NFA (National Firearms Act). In fact all legally owned TRUE Assault Rifles in the United States are registered with BATFE,their owners have undergone extensive background checks before taking possession of the assault rifle, paid a $200 tax AND the BATFE not only requires the weapons be locked up but actually has the authority to knock on the door of an Assault Rifle owner AT ANY TIME and request to inspect the weapon! "Automatic" vs "Semi-Auto" vs "Select Fire" Let's be specific. When you talk about "automatics" do you mean a "full auto/Select fire" weapon where one trigger pull = more than one round fired, or do you mean a "Semi-Auto" where one trigger pull = one round fired? Hunting and "Sporting Purposes" Telling me that I shouldn't be able to own a specific firearm because it "has no sporting purpose" or "isn't used to hunt" holds no weight. The Second Amendment doesn't talk about "sporting purposes" or "hunting". If your argument includes "no sporting purpose" or "can't hunt with" as to why you want to infringe on my right to bear arms, please throw that argument out and start over. Registration Here in Oklahoma MOST firearms (all those that don't fall under the NFA) are not registered. We don't "register" firearms here in Oklahoma. The exception are weapons that fall under the NFA: Short Barreled Rifles, Short Barreled shotguns, suppressors, machine guns (select fire/full auto), destructive devices and the like. [/QUOTE]
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