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<blockquote data-quote="MoBoost" data-source="post: 2136368" data-attributes="member: 3455"><p>Except Remington 700 doesn't fit your formula. </p><p></p><p>Both Savage 110 and Remington 700 where designed (basically) at the same time and both were designed to undercut Winchester 70 by offering a cheaper rifle.</p><p></p><p>Savage did it with innovations that were 40 years ahead of it's time</p><p>Remington did it by simplifying existing 100 year old designs.</p><p></p><p>There is nothing wrong with either approach. But it doesn't change the fact that there is a 100 year design/technological difference between the two. </p><p></p><p>You don't have to be gunsmith to see that barrel nut and floating head is a better design, especially mass produced. Any action can be hand-fitted into a precision rifle - what makes Savage special is that you don't have to.</p><p></p><p>Savage also seems to make better barrels. You can clearly see it in the used market. I do not hesitate buying a Savage take-off barrel; on the other hand nobody in their right mind would spend time and effort fitting a Remington factory take-off.</p><p></p><p>I agree with "not settling" notion - but from what we've seen in the last 10 years - maybe Savage got bolt action "perfection". New "innovative" rifles keep coming out that are simple copies of Savage - Marlin XS7, Mossberg ATR, Ruger American. </p><p>Kind of like Glocks - there a many polymer pistols on the market, but as they get updated and refined - they become more and more like Glocks.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoBoost, post: 2136368, member: 3455"] Except Remington 700 doesn't fit your formula. Both Savage 110 and Remington 700 where designed (basically) at the same time and both were designed to undercut Winchester 70 by offering a cheaper rifle. Savage did it with innovations that were 40 years ahead of it's time Remington did it by simplifying existing 100 year old designs. There is nothing wrong with either approach. But it doesn't change the fact that there is a 100 year design/technological difference between the two. You don't have to be gunsmith to see that barrel nut and floating head is a better design, especially mass produced. Any action can be hand-fitted into a precision rifle - what makes Savage special is that you don't have to. Savage also seems to make better barrels. You can clearly see it in the used market. I do not hesitate buying a Savage take-off barrel; on the other hand nobody in their right mind would spend time and effort fitting a Remington factory take-off. I agree with "not settling" notion - but from what we've seen in the last 10 years - maybe Savage got bolt action "perfection". New "innovative" rifles keep coming out that are simple copies of Savage - Marlin XS7, Mossberg ATR, Ruger American. Kind of like Glocks - there a many polymer pistols on the market, but as they get updated and refined - they become more and more like Glocks. [/QUOTE]
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