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<blockquote data-quote="ez bake" data-source="post: 1058739" data-attributes="member: 229"><p>While I'll agree that the Vortex Viper is a damn good deal and one I've been looking at for quite some time now, I don't necessarily think everyone needs MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA - it really comes in handy when you're trying to make a bulls-eye group and you've missed a few inches off and need to quickly calculate how to get back on bulls eye (not really helpful for hunting or just banging steel) - other than that, it doesn't do anything better than a Mil/MOA scope other than use more simple formulas for range-finding (and I'm honestly so used to the Mil formulas, that I catch myself doing them faster than just taking the 1/1000th thing to heart).</p><p></p><p>Still its nice to have if you ever plan on trying to make a tiny group at 700yds and then quickly move to 600 and your ballistics card is off just a hair.</p><p></p><p><strong>Jwryan84</strong> - Trijicon scopes are good, but if I were looking to go out to that distance, I'd look at a different optic - and I can't honestly argue with <strong>StammesOpfer</strong>'s logic in that the Vortex is a very nice optic for the money (and I'm not going to lie, those MOA/MOA guys are slowly convincing me that I want to go that route for what I do), but you've got plenty of options with a better reticle than the Trijicon has - I personally like something with more measurement options than just a plain mil-dot (and I don't like the huge thick cross-hairs the Trijicon has).</p><p></p><p>But in that price-range, you're close enough to a NightForce to pick up a used one for a few hundred more - just something to think about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ez bake, post: 1058739, member: 229"] While I'll agree that the Vortex Viper is a damn good deal and one I've been looking at for quite some time now, I don't necessarily think everyone needs MIL/MIL or MOA/MOA - it really comes in handy when you're trying to make a bulls-eye group and you've missed a few inches off and need to quickly calculate how to get back on bulls eye (not really helpful for hunting or just banging steel) - other than that, it doesn't do anything better than a Mil/MOA scope other than use more simple formulas for range-finding (and I'm honestly so used to the Mil formulas, that I catch myself doing them faster than just taking the 1/1000th thing to heart). Still its nice to have if you ever plan on trying to make a tiny group at 700yds and then quickly move to 600 and your ballistics card is off just a hair. [B]Jwryan84[/B] - Trijicon scopes are good, but if I were looking to go out to that distance, I'd look at a different optic - and I can't honestly argue with [B]StammesOpfer[/B]'s logic in that the Vortex is a very nice optic for the money (and I'm not going to lie, those MOA/MOA guys are slowly convincing me that I want to go that route for what I do), but you've got plenty of options with a better reticle than the Trijicon has - I personally like something with more measurement options than just a plain mil-dot (and I don't like the huge thick cross-hairs the Trijicon has). But in that price-range, you're close enough to a NightForce to pick up a used one for a few hundred more - just something to think about. [/QUOTE]
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