American Journalist Beheaded by ISIS

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Ace_on_the_Turn

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sorry ace, thats how a war is won and they declared it first. just wait til they make a burning pile of bodies, tossing your kids on for kindling. lets not ***** foot around any more.

Iraq declared war on the U.S. first? Or are you referring to the 19 hijackers. 15 of which were from Saudi Arabia, 2 from UAE and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. So who is this "they" that declared war first? If you're living in fear of "them" invading the U.S. you're wasting your fear on the wrong people. You are a million times more likely to be killed by a neighbor than an invading ME terrorist.
 

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There is no way to go to "big boy war" with a group of extremists. Only established govts. And even then the loss of life among innocents is astronomical and completely unacceptable in today's media saturated world. WWII could not happen in the 21st century. There were absurd levels of civilian casualties that would dwarf what modern society deems "acceptable".

War, even "big boy war" will not solve these problems. Energy independence will. It will allow us to not give a fukc about which Arabs are killing which. Use that money we would spend on bombs and tanks and divert it to large tax credits to make solar energy more accessible to each household. (They run about $30k for a house currently)

****, now I sound like a socialist.

The bolded part. That's why "big boy war" is avoided at almost all costs. The key word being almost because you have to have a line somewhere. But cross that line and you have to show that you will do what you have to do. It's that whole deterrent concept. Society today and their lack of cojones for true war reminds me of that old original Star Trek episode with two planets at war with each other. Only they really weren't, there were computers that did simulated attacks and computed the casualties on each side, then each side had machines that killed their citizens, which they willingly went to. All in the name of avoiding actual damage and suffering of war. The result of that was that there was really no motivation to end their war. In a way we really aren't that far off from that.

Also at some point the rest of the world is going to have to realize that these ISIS animals DO ACTUALLY HAVE the cojones to wage war and that they have declared war on us. The sooner people wake up to this fact will result in less suffering on both sides, but it'll be a real ***** for awhile. Question is how long do we want to drag it out? It's just a fact that we won't be left alone if we try to leave them alone, especially if we cut off all their oil money.
 

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Also at some point the rest of the world is going to have to realize that these ISIS animals DO ACTUALLY HAVE the cojones to wage war and that they have declared war on us. The sooner people wake up to this fact will result in less suffering on both sides, but it'll be a real ***** for awhile. Question is how long do we want to drag it out? It's just a fact that we won't be left alone if we try to leave them alone, especially if we cut off all their oil money.[/QUOTE]

Exactly!
 

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I dunno....the world is a changin' boys. It ain't WW1 and WW2 anymore. It's gunna be different now and in the future.

Part of me wants them to just shut the hell up and go play in their sandbox and let me watch duck dynasty without having to think about all this sillyness, and part of me says "Pile your ISIS asses in that malaysian jet you got hidden over there and come get some, bitches...lets all get down and take care of business once and for all..let's meet in the fn walmart parkin' lot and find out who the true bad asses are and who are the punks that have to hide behind veils and scarves and cut handcuffed dudes heads off"

We have too many rules to go by to be able to go over there and weed them out and extinguish them. We've been trying that and it don't work.

I'm all for live and let live. But i'm also for not puttin up with too much ****.

I really think "they" have stepped out so far that they can't just crawfish and forget about it. I believe at some point we're gunna dance. If not ISIS, it'll be another "group". They can get the funds together to TRY to carry out SOME SORT of attack on American Soil. I think they KNOW there's no way they can every have a "Sandals on the ground" attack on the US, so they are gunna try some more 911 crap, or EMP stuff or something. Maybe not...but i think it's coming at some point. Beyond the horror of the lost lives, look at the disruption 911 had on us. It could be worse...think about the possibilities.

It all comes down to they only need the "right" leader to step up into "power" and it'll be on like donkey kong. There's enough of them that are invested enough to sign up for the big bang.

Like i said...i don't know what the answer is, but it just seems inevitable that the s is gunna hit the f at some point.
 

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So back to the OP.

Seems there is some evidence the guy that beheaded the journalist is a passport carrying person from the UK. The investigation continues.

All we gadda do is snatch one ISIL dude that knows something and make him sing. Then we'll find out the head takers identity, track him down with drones n drop couple bombs on his head.

See, we've been down this road before.
 

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All we gadda do is snatch one ISIL dude that knows something and make him sing. Then we'll find out the head takers identity, track him down with drones n drop couple bombs on his head.

See, we've been down this road before.

What?

They think he is back in the UK as we speak. The FBI is investigating.
 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again, "limited" warfare is the cruelest warfare ever devised. It's insufficient to deter evil men and gives them hope that they can prevail. Either do nothing at all, or do EVERYTHING!

About the only time I remember limited warfare working for us was Muammar Gaddafi. Reagan targeted him directly and wound up killing part of his family. He toed the line from then on. Unfortunately, you can't do that with ISIS. :(
 

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Iraq declared war on the U.S. first? Or are you referring to the 19 hijackers. 15 of which were from Saudi Arabia, 2 from UAE and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. So who is this "they" that declared war first? If you're living in fear of "them" invading the U.S. you're wasting your fear on the wrong people. You are a million times more likely to be killed by a neighbor than an invading ME terrorist.

We are talking about ISIS. The Islamic State. Who are you talking about? I'm not afraid of an invasion from the Middle East, I'm afraid of compromising our reputation as a country who is strong and who will do what it takes to defend its citizens.

We need to stop acting like this group is just a terrorist group. Yes they terrorize, but they have taken over lands, established a government, wage war, and have ambitions to expand. I have seen videos of them threatening To invade Turkey, Iran, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Don't kid yourself by calling them a mere terrorist organization.

They have established a caliphate which makes cities such as Mosul and Raqqa perfect targets for nukes or carpet bombing in my opinion.
 

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