Ammo Price Gouging Needs To Stop!

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As to the arbitrage issue. I really dont have an issue with it. If someone is selling below market you have to expect someone will take advantage of it. That is human nature.
This is pretty reasonable actually I have never just looked at it as an arbitrage opportunity. If you do this on the financial markets you are the man why should ammo or anything else be any different I suppose…hmmmm
 

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This is pretty reasonable actually I have never just looked at it as an arbitrage opportunity. If you do this on the financial markets you are the man why should ammo or anything else be any different I suppose…hmmmm

Yeah, I work in finance (CPA) so I don't see taking advantage of pricing differences a bad thing. From a purely economic POV it actually helps to solve shortages.
 

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Im a wannabe options trader so I am familiar with the concept. Thanks for the fresh perspective buddy, I feel like I have misjudged.
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I am VERY free market. Don't get me started on the myth of price gouging.
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Yeah, I work in finance (CPA) so I don't see taking advantage of pricing differences a bad thing. From a purely economic POV it actually helps to solve shortages.
This depends on industry, many companies can constrict supply now all they need is a catalyst real or perceived. The chemical industry has mastered this they used to have a plant just run, all day all night making what they can make. Now they don’t they take a molecule like propylene as an example and they move the juice to where the profits are highest and the rest of the streams are shorted. If Isopropyl alcohol is making the most profit thats where they send it, if its propylene glycol they send it there (which shorts one of the other streams and drives up the price eventually)
 

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This depends on industry, many companies can constrict supply now all they need is a catalyst real or perceived. The chemical industry has mastered this they used to have a plant just run, all day all night making what they can make. Now they don’t they take a molecule like propylene as an example and they move the juice to where the profits are highest and the rest of the streams are shorted. If Isopropyl alcohol is making the most profit thats where they send it, if its propylene glycol they send it there (which shorts one of the other streams and drives up the price eventually)

All that does, in a truly free market, is create an opportunity for someone. .gov's ONLY purpose in free markets is to bust monopolies and slap down States that try to institute trade barriers.
 

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here is my take...If you are waiting in line at academy each day then going and listing for a profit...you're in the wrong. Essentially what you have done is created an unnecessary middle man...providing no good or service, likely making it less convenient for the consumer to acquire the ammo in the process. The real kicker that makes it feel dirty is this -> Neckbeards are Essentially driving the very ammo shortage they profit from...adding to the pain of the supply shortage without providing any benefit to the consumer...this seems unethical to me.

However, if you have a ton of ammo...that you purchased at a prior time. And are taking advantage of the high prices...you are a good investor and not at all a POS neckbeard. If you bought a house in 2009 for $80k...would you sell right now for $80k when housing is comanting ATHs??? No, you'd list for current value, make a fat profit, and would not be criticized. The market sets the price via supply and demand...you sell ammo right now you have been sitting on then you are adding supply to the market. there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

I recently sold some 22lr ammo for 10cpr...i have been sitting on it for years. The last time we had a bad shortage (2016) I bought a ton of it so as to never be caught with my pants down again. I am wanting some extra cash lately and listed it on AL...it sold in a day. KMA if you think i am a bad person for not listing it for 5cpr...If you don't like current market prices then do not participate in the marketplace and do not cry about it.

"Buy it cheap, Stack it deep" is one of the most true sayings from the gun community. Live by it.
Sounds to me like you're making some pretty pained arguments to validate why selling ammo at a profit is OK when you do it, but not OK if someone else does it, with everything being the same except for the timing of the purchase and subsequent reselling of the ammo.
 

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I think there are enough people who "want it now", for current ammo prices to stabilize at current rates and never again drop to 2019 prices.

Something I've noticed about consumerism in this country is that people just want it now and they're glad to pay extra. We see it millions of times a day with people using food delivery service.

There just aren't enough people who understand market dynamics to hold off on buying until things get cheaper. I don't believe this type of person has been manufactured in the US since the mid 90s.
I keep saying this. Market price is at the retail outlet. When neckbeards hoard the ammo and create a false market, they are gouging.
If everybody just bought from the retail markets, went out to shoot and returned to the store to buy more ammo, this BS wouldn't exist.
When neckbeards stand in line at 4am to wait for the store to open and clear the shelves to resell at higher prices, it creates an artificial shortage which is where we are now.
 
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