Ammo Price Gouging Needs To Stop!

[HarryBear]

I'll be the first one to say.
If I *need it, I'll buy it.
(Notice I didn't say *want)...

 

[dennishoddy]

I believe you are instinctually dishonest.

That isn't drama. It's my opinion. Just like hoping certain business models fail.

It is only today that I learned I wasn't entitled to my opinion, and having my opinion about free markets made me an AOC disciple. You asked about applying my economic principles when I didn't state any economic principles. I just proffered an opinion on doing business with certain businesses, which you disagreed with, so you decided to take me to task over it. That's fine. Your opinion of me matters exactly zero to me.

Like the guy that bought into the patent for EpiPen's that people all over the US use for life and death situations for insect and other allergies that increased the prices incredibly high so he could reap insurance money or rape people that didn't have insurance because that was the difference between life and death for some of them?
That neck beard and those like him? Oh by the way, he is serving time behind bars now.
That is not the definition of a free trade market. That's taking advantage of a market.
Most states, red states anyway, have laws against gauging prices on necessities during times of distress or disaster with big fines for those that do.
Fuel, food, etc.
I'd like to see ammo in that classification as that is a life or death necessity as far as I'm concerned.

 

[dennishoddy]

Define gouging?
Is it when an import ban has been permanently enforced and one can no longer get the item, then the person is to purchase from someone else who has the asset and is willing to pay to receive it?

What about the gouging before the import ban?

 

[OK Corgi Rancher]

Like the guy that bought into the patent for EpiPen's that people all over the US use for life and death situations for insect and other allergies that increased the prices incredibly high so he could reap insurance money or rape people that didn't have insurance because that was the difference between life and death for some of them?
That neck beard and those like him? Oh by the way, he is serving time behind bars now.
That is not the definition of a free trade market.
Most states, red states anyway, have laws against gauging prices on necessities during times of distress or disaster with big fines for those that do.
Fuel, food, etc.
I'd like to see ammo in that classification as that is a life or death necessity as far as I'm concerned.

I just want to be clear...I respect the fact you have a right to your opinion. But I have to say I think it's very misguided.

For the life of me I'll NEVER understand why people would want more government intervention in their everyday lives.

Some of you people had better be careful what you wish for.

 

[SoonerP226]

So, capitalism is good while it's working in our favor, but it's suddenly bad when it's working against us. Likewise, socialism is bad until it's working in our favor, then it magically becomes good.

Got it.

 

[dennishoddy]

I just want to be clear...I respect the fact you have a right to your opinion. But I have to say I think it's very misguided.

For the life of me I'll NEVER understand why people would want more government intervention in their everyday lives.

Some of you people had better be careful what you wish for.

And you have a right to yours that I'll respect.
If your referring to government intervention in their everyday lives, the government only has the powers that we the people give them via the voting booth.
I'm not in favor of government intervention, I am in favor of the people giving the powers to the government to prevent individuals from gouging other individuals in times of disaster or need by inflating prices to the point only the rich can afford the Right the Constitution gave all of us.
There are people out there today that cannot afford the inflated prices that are being charged today for a single box of ammo, gasoline after a natural disaster, and so on that are highly inflated.
They might have been able to afford it back before that shat storm started, maybe.....
So how do we rationalize this as a Republic form of Government where the people elect representatives to congress to represent us?
Are we electing them to only protect the rights of those that can hoard and create artificial markets or do we want them to protect everyone from inflated pricing brought on by those artificial shortages in the markets be it ammo or essential services?
It's a touchy subject and controversial no matter how one looks at it.
For the record I'm not in shortage of any ammo or components, but I am taking the side of those that may be disadvantaged by the higher pricing.
I hate to see posts where people can't take their kids to the range because they can't afford the ammo anymore and have to accept donated ammunition.
There is a reason they can't.
I also understand there is a huge increase in gun ownership that is contributing to the issue of higher prices in retail markets. Not the same as resellers creating a local shortage by hoarding. We have had hundreds of threads on here about walmart skullduggery among friends and hoarders among others.
This shortage isn't the first go around driven by politics. School shooting one day, triple ammo/gun prices the next day.
Was there a shortage then? No, it was out and out gouging the public for profit.
Obama in office, threats to take away your guns, shortages.
Trump in office, no threat to take away guns, prices go down.
Politics.....greed.....
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[wawazat]

What you are seeking is a price ceiling during times of distress? Is that an accurate summary?

The issues with a price ceiling are similar to a ban. It leads to under the table deals for way more money than the sticker on the item shows. Cities have tried it on apartment prices to keep areas from being completely gentrified. Suddenly you see crazy security deposits, annual "membership" fees to an HOA, parking fees, etc. to restrict the demand back down to those willing to pay for the scarcity of supply.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with your intent. I really dislike people that have no concern for the community around them other than taking advantage of them for a dollar. It is incredibly counterproductive to the type of environment humans thrive in. What I am saying is the market has a way of finding balance whether we like it or not. There is no way around it that I have ever seen be successful for any amount of time. Even in communist or socialist regimes, you can get some extra rations if you have enough money.

 

[Timmy59]

I think what we have here is "Judgement" and we likely know what is said about that. Some here are well healed while others don't have 2 nickels to rub together. You think they will operate in the same manner ?? For those so against selling for profit, I'll send ya my addy so you can send me $$ and I'll not need to sell the 2 boxes of ammo I have.
A small sleeve of sunflower seeds at the quickstop, $2.29 lol, I recall 2 for a dollar.

 

[AKguy1985]

I think what we have here is "Judgement" and we likely know what is said about that. Some here are well healed while others don't have 2 nickels to rub together. You think they will operate in the same manner ?? For those so against selling for profit, I'll send ya my addy so you can send me $$ and I'll not need to sell the 2 boxes of ammo I have.
A small sleeve of sunflower seeds at the quickstop, $2.29 lol, I recall 2 for a dollar.

Inflation is very real.