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Communism should be illegal. Libs love to say freedom isn't absolute. I agree. Political parties that don't follow the Constitution of the United States should be illegal. There is no logic fallacy in that.
There are laws on the books were communism or being in a communist party is illegal in the United States. Socialism is so close I’m not sure if it’s included in that. This goes back to the Eisenhower days. 841-844 is the law that Eisenhower signed into law. So, even Congress back then didn’t like Commies
 
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Communist don't have rights.
Sounds good. Everyone hates Communists……….but after they squish the commies, what if the free market people are next? While you supported infringing and ignoring their rights, now it your turn. Who will stand for you? We protect odious speech, because in protecting it we are all protected.
 

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Sounds good. Everyone hates Communists……….but after they squish the commies, what if the free market people are next? While you supported infringing and ignoring their rights, now it your turn. Who will stand for you? We protect odious speech, because in protecting it we are all protected.

This isn't a Martin Niemoller moment and the communists aren't the persecuted folks here. Its average Americans who disagree with the leftists . So many people seem to have critical thinking failure here even when what's happening is in real time and on TV every night. I am not even certain the Bolsheviks had it this good in Russia in 1917 and they had a largely uneducated peasant population to work with.
 

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Sounds good. Everyone hates Communists……….but after they squish the commies, what if the free market people are next? While you supported infringing and ignoring their rights, now it your turn. Who will stand for you? We protect odious speech, because in protecting it we are all protected.
I'm not sure about everyone abhorring communism. Some people on the left like it.
 

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Slow your high horse roll there buddy --- unlike you I've evidenced I'll admit when I'm wrong. In fact you quoted me doing so earlier. I just don't think it changes my basic point.

I go virtually everywhere unarmed. I rarely carry to be honest. I'd say the most common reason I carry is if I'll be in areas with wildlife concerns --- I'm not as worried about people as it seems many others are. Now, I also have a general rule which is I'm going to avoid civil unrest and avoid putting myself in crap situations. The couple of times I've had to draw were problems that came to me.

So it's not skirting the facts --- if he had either stayed home we'd have never known his name. My opinion here is that it's real hard to be an innocent, untargeted, medic with an AR-15 slung over your med hit in an area of civil unrest. Yeah yeah, I know in the military medics are armed, but civil unrest doesn't really follow combat rules last I checked.

At the end of the day, what was he defending? Property? Oh no the property! Listen, I like my property and all the crap I have, but I started with nothing and was perfectly happy back then without all the things I have now. When I die, I get to take none of that property with me even. Heck, if a fire wiped out everything but my and my family came out of it, that's fine, I have insurance and get even newer crap to go on my new property.
How about Life? Livelihoods? The basic freedoms we're all supposed to have in the United States of America? I mean you're free to sit on the sidelines and watch the shitshow (like the Kenosha PD did after they were ordered to stand down), because it's still a free country. But it won't be a free country for long if everyone decides to sit on their hands.

Kyle didn't go there to start anything. He was there to protect the society he was a part of (remember he was a child of divorce who lived in both places). He was a civic minded young man and an asset to those communities. He wasn't antagonizing anyone and he was set upon by violent criminals. All he did was take out the trash.
 

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Well by definition what you are describing is fascism. So is what antifa wants.

I gotta say, such a polarizing personality and speech, joined less than 6 months ago, just on the brink of calling for violence. I SMELL A FED. You reek of FBI, CIA, gov Whitmer type stuff
Yeah so I have lived where antifa sets up armed roadblocks, kindergarten teachers are having kids doing rainbow pride dances and the local government finds "last minute votes" for whatever far leftist is running. I got some news, the playing field is not fair and if we keep deluding ourself that it is at least we can pat ourselves on the back in the concentration camps for being good citizens who followed the law. I have first hand experience with leftist subverting families, destroying peoples lives, including my career. But I guess Not wanting the future of this country and all of our families destroyed makes me a FED. Better let armed trannies rule the streets.

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Sounds good. Everyone hates Communists……….but after they squish the commies, what if the free market people are next? While you supported infringing and ignoring their rights, now it your turn. Who will stand for you? We protect odious speech, because in protecting it we are all protected.
I get what you are saying but look around, the left is in charge and cancels people for speech at will. We are no longer protected. The march of history says that one side WILL take power over the other, might as well be our side.
 
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How about Life? Livelihoods? The basic freedoms we're all supposed to have in the United States of America? I mean you're free to sit on the sidelines and watch the shitshow (like the Kenosha PD did after they were ordered to stand down), because it's still a free country. But it won't be a free country for long if everyone decides to sit on their hands.

Kyle didn't go there to start anything. He was there to protect the society he was a part of (remember he was a child of divorce who lived in both places). He was a civic minded young man and an asset to those communities. He wasn't antagonizing anyone and he was set upon by violent criminals. All he did was take out the trash.
That is certainly one way of looking at it yes. As I've expressed earlier, I don't agree with that assessment. Again, the legal system does which is important to him. My beliefs about the situation matter to him about as much as we (the collective we here, not just G2Go) care about each others opinions.
 

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Communism should be illegal. Libs love to say freedom isn't absolute. I agree. Political parties that don't follow the Constitution of the United States should be illegal. There is no logic fallacy in that.
what about communism, as an ideology, is unconstitutional?

And while actions are typically legal or illegal, rarely is thought actually banned.

Failure to follow the Constitution isn't unique to any one group or party. It might not always look the same, but it does happen.
 

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