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<blockquote data-quote="Gideon" data-source="post: 4022436" data-attributes="member: 7898"><p>Every libertarian thinker recognizes that when someone is attacking you it is correct to defend yourself and others.</p><p>So when a group of people show up and say: "we want you to be killed for disagreeing with us." It is reasonable to say: "FAFO." It is furthermore reasonable to say that a libertarian social order can only exist so long as people who attempt to violently overthrow it are excluded.</p><p>Please provide more reasoning than "you're wrong."</p><p></p><p>Fascism is a very specific political theory, it isn't merely an insult you can hurl at people without doing the reading first. If you can find a quote in Mussolini's: "The Doctrine of Fascism" that says "we just want to restrict the rights of people we disagree with," I'll buy you a beer and we'll call it settled.</p><p></p><p>In this case, we aren't advocating the left be denied any rights we want for ourselves. I don't believe that I have the right to go gather in public and assault and batter people I disagree with. I don't believe that I have the right to plan, plot, and organize physical attacks on my philosophical opponents. </p><p>So neither should they.</p><p>And if they do those things, their other rights should be restricted, just as mine would be were the shoe on the other foot.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gideon, post: 4022436, member: 7898"] Every libertarian thinker recognizes that when someone is attacking you it is correct to defend yourself and others. So when a group of people show up and say: "we want you to be killed for disagreeing with us." It is reasonable to say: "FAFO." It is furthermore reasonable to say that a libertarian social order can only exist so long as people who attempt to violently overthrow it are excluded. Please provide more reasoning than "you're wrong." Fascism is a very specific political theory, it isn't merely an insult you can hurl at people without doing the reading first. If you can find a quote in Mussolini's: "The Doctrine of Fascism" that says "we just want to restrict the rights of people we disagree with," I'll buy you a beer and we'll call it settled. In this case, we aren't advocating the left be denied any rights we want for ourselves. I don't believe that I have the right to go gather in public and assault and batter people I disagree with. I don't believe that I have the right to plan, plot, and organize physical attacks on my philosophical opponents. So neither should they. And if they do those things, their other rights should be restricted, just as mine would be were the shoe on the other foot. [/QUOTE]
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