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<blockquote data-quote="TheDoubleD" data-source="post: 3635796" data-attributes="member: 43754"><p>You need to have the Harpers Ferry Gun authenticated by a credible source. Look for an accreditted Civil war Collector. The pictures you provide are not inclusive and clear enough to determine if this is an1838 Harpers Ferry Musket or a fake. There any number of fakes around. Caliber would be .69 caliber smooth bore. These muskets were converted from flintlocks. They were also used in the Civil War.</p><p></p><p>To authenticate this you need clear sharp pictures of all the details. Square side on pictures. There should be letters and symbols all over the gun. Take pictures. To the knowledgeable person the marks tell a story.</p><p></p><p>This gun does have some value. Authenticated, documented Civil war guns have a good value. But because of that counterfeit copies have been made. You need to be very careful when dealing in these gun-the thieves and tricksters are on both side of the counter.</p><p></p><p>Here is good website on this gun. Look at that for the type of pictures needed to ID this gun. <a href="http://relicman.com/weapons/Weapon1201-Musket-Model-1816-Harpers-Ferry-1838.html" target="_blank">Ridgeway Reference Library, Civil War plates and buckles</a> Do not rely on comparing you gun to the pictures ther are subtle differences that collector can identify.</p><p></p><p>The shotgun is a Eclipse Gun Company Double, most likely 12 gauge with 2-1/2 inch chambers. Read this article for details on it. Pay close attention to the warning about shooting modern shells in it. <a href="https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have-an-eclipse-antique-12ga-double-barrel-shotgun-what-is-value-442313.html" target="_blank">https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have-an-eclipse-antique-12ga-double-barrel-shotgun-what-is-value-442313.html</a> Made 1905 to 1914 and imported from Belgium. Some have laminated, twist steel barrels referred to as Damascus. There is a caution about shooting Damascus barrel. Damascus barrels can be tested for soundness, but the cost of the test usually will exceed the value of the gun. These were always just plain utility guns. Value not high</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheDoubleD, post: 3635796, member: 43754"] You need to have the Harpers Ferry Gun authenticated by a credible source. Look for an accreditted Civil war Collector. The pictures you provide are not inclusive and clear enough to determine if this is an1838 Harpers Ferry Musket or a fake. There any number of fakes around. Caliber would be .69 caliber smooth bore. These muskets were converted from flintlocks. They were also used in the Civil War. To authenticate this you need clear sharp pictures of all the details. Square side on pictures. There should be letters and symbols all over the gun. Take pictures. To the knowledgeable person the marks tell a story. This gun does have some value. Authenticated, documented Civil war guns have a good value. But because of that counterfeit copies have been made. You need to be very careful when dealing in these gun-the thieves and tricksters are on both side of the counter. Here is good website on this gun. Look at that for the type of pictures needed to ID this gun. [URL='http://relicman.com/weapons/Weapon1201-Musket-Model-1816-Harpers-Ferry-1838.html']Ridgeway Reference Library, Civil War plates and buckles[/URL] Do not rely on comparing you gun to the pictures ther are subtle differences that collector can identify. The shotgun is a Eclipse Gun Company Double, most likely 12 gauge with 2-1/2 inch chambers. Read this article for details on it. Pay close attention to the warning about shooting modern shells in it. [URL]https://www.gunvaluesboard.com/i-have-an-eclipse-antique-12ga-double-barrel-shotgun-what-is-value-442313.html[/URL] Made 1905 to 1914 and imported from Belgium. Some have laminated, twist steel barrels referred to as Damascus. There is a caution about shooting Damascus barrel. Damascus barrels can be tested for soundness, but the cost of the test usually will exceed the value of the gun. These were always just plain utility guns. Value not high [/QUOTE]
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