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<blockquote data-quote="aestus" data-source="post: 1701799" data-attributes="member: 2989"><p>I think you missed the part about they key to survival being organized neighborhoods. Being a lone wolf anywhere in the city, out in the woods, bugging in or out, is going to get you killed in the long run. If roving gangs of zombies are raiding your neighborhood and you neighborhood doesn't have watches set up, doesn't organize and have a system or a plan set up and pretty much lie down and take it, then yes you may want to relocate to a family or friends house elsewhere. Again this is about being prepared and part of that is talking to your neighbors NOW about it. If they seem indifferent or just seem like the type that will "lie down and take it" then that's your cue to make other preparations to go to a friend or family's house in a community that will take steps to organize if such an event is to happen.</p><p></p><p>What's extremely hilarious is that the people who need to prep and possibly bug out the most are the ones who aren't but people who live out in Apache, OK are fortifying for zombies.</p><p></p><p>Even with proper camping gear, most people cannot survive out in the wilderness for months at a time. Even hardcore survivalists will tell you that surviving off the land long term on your own will end up making you sick and malnurished. Again I'm talking lone wolfing out instead of perhaps a small community or group out in the wilderness that all work together for survival. Work can be separated and delegated out. </p><p></p><p>If I remember the link, there's a guy who pretty much stayed in the entire time of Katrina (he had multiple businesses there) and he gives detailed accounts of what he had to do to and things he saw go on there. Even he made the statement that unless you were directly in the flood, the best thing to do was to bug in and fortify at the community / neighborhood level. Those who tried to bug out when the chaos hit ended up in the mercy of the mob or the police, take your pick. He gives detailed accounts about home / community fortification, what he had to barter and trade for supplies. Ice cold water was king and an ice cold coke was pretty much worth it's weight in gold and was very key in "bartering and trading" with the police and security forces there and was key letting him access parts of the city that were closed off or allowing him to transport food and medical supplies without confiscation. The police and security there at the checkpoints would confiscate anything they they themselves needed, so preppers who tried to bug out and got caught in the checkpoints were a gold mine and were "relieved" of his supplies. Especially things like batteries, flashlights, ect.</p><p></p><p>Anyways, I'll see if I can find his link and post it here. It's a good read and if not, I can just copy paste the document I have where I had saved most of his posts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aestus, post: 1701799, member: 2989"] I think you missed the part about they key to survival being organized neighborhoods. Being a lone wolf anywhere in the city, out in the woods, bugging in or out, is going to get you killed in the long run. If roving gangs of zombies are raiding your neighborhood and you neighborhood doesn't have watches set up, doesn't organize and have a system or a plan set up and pretty much lie down and take it, then yes you may want to relocate to a family or friends house elsewhere. Again this is about being prepared and part of that is talking to your neighbors NOW about it. If they seem indifferent or just seem like the type that will "lie down and take it" then that's your cue to make other preparations to go to a friend or family's house in a community that will take steps to organize if such an event is to happen. What's extremely hilarious is that the people who need to prep and possibly bug out the most are the ones who aren't but people who live out in Apache, OK are fortifying for zombies. Even with proper camping gear, most people cannot survive out in the wilderness for months at a time. Even hardcore survivalists will tell you that surviving off the land long term on your own will end up making you sick and malnurished. Again I'm talking lone wolfing out instead of perhaps a small community or group out in the wilderness that all work together for survival. Work can be separated and delegated out. If I remember the link, there's a guy who pretty much stayed in the entire time of Katrina (he had multiple businesses there) and he gives detailed accounts of what he had to do to and things he saw go on there. Even he made the statement that unless you were directly in the flood, the best thing to do was to bug in and fortify at the community / neighborhood level. Those who tried to bug out when the chaos hit ended up in the mercy of the mob or the police, take your pick. He gives detailed accounts about home / community fortification, what he had to barter and trade for supplies. Ice cold water was king and an ice cold coke was pretty much worth it's weight in gold and was very key in "bartering and trading" with the police and security forces there and was key letting him access parts of the city that were closed off or allowing him to transport food and medical supplies without confiscation. The police and security there at the checkpoints would confiscate anything they they themselves needed, so preppers who tried to bug out and got caught in the checkpoints were a gold mine and were "relieved" of his supplies. Especially things like batteries, flashlights, ect. Anyways, I'll see if I can find his link and post it here. It's a good read and if not, I can just copy paste the document I have where I had saved most of his posts. [/QUOTE]
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