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<blockquote data-quote="Shadowrider" data-source="post: 3203976" data-attributes="member: 3099"><p>[USER=24]@JD8[/USER] I thought I'd update my earlier post since you bumped this thread.</p><p></p><p>I have way too much gut, not as much as some, but more than others and more than I'd like to have. *sigh*</p><p></p><p>The Keepers holsters work for me. In addition to the wedges, they are adjustable for cant and height so I run them as low in the pants as they will go to reduce printing. That would probably not pass muster with Spencer for draw speed but it works for me. When I actually do a good run, I can run a Fast Drill with my Coolfire trainer in my M&P Shield out of the Errand holster in about 6 seconds reloading from the pocket depending on what pants I wear. If I carried the mag on the belt I could probably hit the 5 second challenge coin time.</p><p></p><p>They do take some getting used to and one thing Spencer pointed out is that the longer barreled models actually work better and are more comfortable at the same time. Spencer is a big guy and he carried a G35/G34 for a very long time. I think he's routinely running a Beretta 92 these days. But Gabe White isn't real big and he carries a G34 IIRC with even more gear. Don't underestimate this method of carry. My advice is that if you run a compact "short" gun keep it at a single stack thickness. Otherwise bigger (longer) does seem to be better.</p><p></p><p>I also have to "degun" when I go to the courthouse so I always use the clip. I just put the holster on with the gun in it. Same for taking off. I'm doing this usually in the street, so I need to be a little bit discreet about it even though I'm locking it up in a Hornady Arm Lock Box.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadowrider, post: 3203976, member: 3099"] [USER=24]@JD8[/USER] I thought I'd update my earlier post since you bumped this thread. I have way too much gut, not as much as some, but more than others and more than I'd like to have. *sigh* The Keepers holsters work for me. In addition to the wedges, they are adjustable for cant and height so I run them as low in the pants as they will go to reduce printing. That would probably not pass muster with Spencer for draw speed but it works for me. When I actually do a good run, I can run a Fast Drill with my Coolfire trainer in my M&P Shield out of the Errand holster in about 6 seconds reloading from the pocket depending on what pants I wear. If I carried the mag on the belt I could probably hit the 5 second challenge coin time. They do take some getting used to and one thing Spencer pointed out is that the longer barreled models actually work better and are more comfortable at the same time. Spencer is a big guy and he carried a G35/G34 for a very long time. I think he's routinely running a Beretta 92 these days. But Gabe White isn't real big and he carries a G34 IIRC with even more gear. Don't underestimate this method of carry. My advice is that if you run a compact "short" gun keep it at a single stack thickness. Otherwise bigger (longer) does seem to be better. I also have to "degun" when I go to the courthouse so I always use the clip. I just put the holster on with the gun in it. Same for taking off. I'm doing this usually in the street, so I need to be a little bit discreet about it even though I'm locking it up in a Hornady Arm Lock Box. [/QUOTE]
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