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<blockquote data-quote="nofearfactor" data-source="post: 1321854" data-attributes="member: 1535"><p>I passed Oklahomas investigation (also have applied for and got my California and Iowa permits before moving to Oklahoma)- and I got a city issued misdemeanor marijuana ticket 20 years ago when I was a young and dumb college punk living in California. It also was the last time I ever got in any trouble ever too,so,maybe it helps showing that I have had a span of 20 years with no troubles,other than traffic violations over the years. </p><p></p><p>I also have asked and have been told that a ticket is actually an arrest whereby you are being released under your own personal recognizance until you show up in court on the ticket,or pay it. Then if a ticket has been signed by you and then paid without going to court it is actually considered an admission of guilt and thus a 'conviction', unless you go to court,fight it,win,and it gets dismissed. So,you apparently dont have to go to court to get a 'conviction' of an offense. This is just what Ive been told,I may have been told wrong or understand things wrong so I'm not an expert on any of this and please dont use me for information.</p><p></p><p>My 'instance' happened one night after playing a gig in San Francisco and a cop in San Jose pulls me over for speeding. I had had a few beers during the show and definitely wasnt drunk,but it was enough to get me asked to step out of the car for a side of the road investigation. He didnt field sobriety test me because he was really cool and he could tell I wasnt drunk but I had been drinking so he said he was going to give me a ticket for public intox and save me from a possible DWI,and I was going to have to go to county for a required 6 hours of sober up time or whatever. He then wrote me up a bunch of city tickets(all misdemeanors): the one for public intoxication,speeding,a concealed weapons charge (a big hunting knife and a pair of nunchukas were in my guitars case in the back of my Blazer that I really did forget were in there),and then a ticket for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana (I had one small budd in a little baggie in my pocket that I volunteered information on without being searched that weighed probably about a gram in weight). I was 21. Ive since listed it on every application Ive filled out because even though I only got and paid city tickets and had no bond or court or anything, I was taken to county (he even let me ride in the front seat with no cuffs on) for their required 6 hour sober up period where I was mugshotted and printed and put in the drunk tank and had to pay all of the tickets before being released.</p><p></p><p>Other than the weed instance I also always list: a shoplifting charge I got at 16 (I was arrested,jailed,mug shotted and printed. When I went to court the judge told me if I didnt get in any other trouble for 30 days after I saw him in court it would be gone from my record); a misdemeanor charge from another dumb college moment- a charge for contributing to the delinquency of a minor (got some buddies some beer in college and when they got busted with it they ratted me out. I was jailed,mugshotted and printed. Went to court and got 20 hrs community service,after which it was supposedly not going to be on my record); and a bunch of traffic violations in quite a few counties and states that I in no way could ever remember them all but I try my best to list them. </p><p></p><p>My OSCN.net and others lists nothing on my record. But theyre there. So much for relying on that.</p><p></p><p>Some how I have passed every time I have applied. If I can pass you surely can,BUT,I'm sure every application is investigated under different circumstance so dont use me for a barometer of how to pass one. I just try and be honest and list the stupid stuff I did back in the day and its worked. You might try calling OSBI though first just in case.</p><p></p><p>I'm the son and grand son of 3 generations of cops and ex Marines. The black sheep of the family. Funny though how having kids when youre young makes you grow up fast and quit being stupid and you learn to fly right,or you should anyways.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nofearfactor, post: 1321854, member: 1535"] I passed Oklahomas investigation (also have applied for and got my California and Iowa permits before moving to Oklahoma)- and I got a city issued misdemeanor marijuana ticket 20 years ago when I was a young and dumb college punk living in California. It also was the last time I ever got in any trouble ever too,so,maybe it helps showing that I have had a span of 20 years with no troubles,other than traffic violations over the years. I also have asked and have been told that a ticket is actually an arrest whereby you are being released under your own personal recognizance until you show up in court on the ticket,or pay it. Then if a ticket has been signed by you and then paid without going to court it is actually considered an admission of guilt and thus a 'conviction', unless you go to court,fight it,win,and it gets dismissed. So,you apparently dont have to go to court to get a 'conviction' of an offense. This is just what Ive been told,I may have been told wrong or understand things wrong so I'm not an expert on any of this and please dont use me for information. My 'instance' happened one night after playing a gig in San Francisco and a cop in San Jose pulls me over for speeding. I had had a few beers during the show and definitely wasnt drunk,but it was enough to get me asked to step out of the car for a side of the road investigation. He didnt field sobriety test me because he was really cool and he could tell I wasnt drunk but I had been drinking so he said he was going to give me a ticket for public intox and save me from a possible DWI,and I was going to have to go to county for a required 6 hours of sober up time or whatever. He then wrote me up a bunch of city tickets(all misdemeanors): the one for public intoxication,speeding,a concealed weapons charge (a big hunting knife and a pair of nunchukas were in my guitars case in the back of my Blazer that I really did forget were in there),and then a ticket for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana (I had one small budd in a little baggie in my pocket that I volunteered information on without being searched that weighed probably about a gram in weight). I was 21. Ive since listed it on every application Ive filled out because even though I only got and paid city tickets and had no bond or court or anything, I was taken to county (he even let me ride in the front seat with no cuffs on) for their required 6 hour sober up period where I was mugshotted and printed and put in the drunk tank and had to pay all of the tickets before being released. Other than the weed instance I also always list: a shoplifting charge I got at 16 (I was arrested,jailed,mug shotted and printed. When I went to court the judge told me if I didnt get in any other trouble for 30 days after I saw him in court it would be gone from my record); a misdemeanor charge from another dumb college moment- a charge for contributing to the delinquency of a minor (got some buddies some beer in college and when they got busted with it they ratted me out. I was jailed,mugshotted and printed. Went to court and got 20 hrs community service,after which it was supposedly not going to be on my record); and a bunch of traffic violations in quite a few counties and states that I in no way could ever remember them all but I try my best to list them. My OSCN.net and others lists nothing on my record. But theyre there. So much for relying on that. Some how I have passed every time I have applied. If I can pass you surely can,BUT,I'm sure every application is investigated under different circumstance so dont use me for a barometer of how to pass one. I just try and be honest and list the stupid stuff I did back in the day and its worked. You might try calling OSBI though first just in case. I'm the son and grand son of 3 generations of cops and ex Marines. The black sheep of the family. Funny though how having kids when youre young makes you grow up fast and quit being stupid and you learn to fly right,or you should anyways. [/QUOTE]
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