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<blockquote data-quote="swampratt" data-source="post: 3102081" data-attributes="member: 15054"><p>Hog and other critters are not bulletproof.</p><p>36gr 22 LR will kill them dead as dead can get.</p><p>You must stick the bullet where it will kill the sucker.</p><p></p><p>I tossed stones at the little .223 for many years and always thought 30cals were king.</p><p></p><p>After getting my first .223 and doing a lot of shooting and experimenting on penetration in different substances and then carry on the penetration tests to meat.. like deer necks i saved for such purposes i found the little .223 may not be as bad as i thought.</p><p></p><p>So the last 2 years i have used it to take many hogs .deer and coyote along with a lot of other critters.</p><p>I have only used 55gr bullets as they grouped very well for me and less drop at distance than heavier ones and for deer 55gr was minimum legal size.</p><p></p><p>I used the 55 V-Max # 22271 at first and after shooting many hundred i wanted to try the 55gr Hornady #2265 soft point.</p><p></p><p>The SP penetrates deeper but does not hand grenade as well as the V-Max. And this allows the critter to travel a few yards before falling over. The V-max has not let any of my shot animals go any farther than 15 feet.</p><p>3198 fps from my 22" barrel and much less in the 16" and no difference in how it kills.</p><p></p><p>But realize shot placement is key...The V-Max goes in about 2" then starts to come apart and the wound channel looks like an auger or paddle bit passed 8" through the hole it made.</p><p>Right in the neck where the spine is at 400+ lb female hog.. DRT smaller hog and deer behind the crease of the shoulder right to the heart bang flop. One little piggy went 15 feet in a circle before he ran out of squeal, quartering away right through the crease and took out the heart.</p><p></p><p>If the bullet pencils though the animal because of a strong constructed bullet you will be tracking the animal.</p><p>I had some bullets like that in my .308 and seems the 30-30 at 2200fps is too slow to make my flat points expand well at 100-300 yards.</p><p>That is when You must hit spine or nervous system if you can't track. a critter with small hole in the heart can go well over 200 yards before it expires.</p><p>You explode the heart or rip the top all the way off and 80 yards max traveling distance is what i have seen.</p><p></p><p>Some critters shot correctly sometimes will just not die though. so do not give up on a bullet combo on just 1 shot. </p><p>I gave up on a 155gr Sierra after 3 critters shot and bang flop on me and then 8 seconds later get up and run off 200 yards.</p><p>Pencil hole in and out Zero expansion.</p><p>Those were moving fast also 3176fps from my 30-06.</p><p>When they got hit it would pick them up off their feet and pound them to the ground. it was impressive.. probably muscle contraction doing that from the shock load they absorbed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="swampratt, post: 3102081, member: 15054"] Hog and other critters are not bulletproof. 36gr 22 LR will kill them dead as dead can get. You must stick the bullet where it will kill the sucker. I tossed stones at the little .223 for many years and always thought 30cals were king. After getting my first .223 and doing a lot of shooting and experimenting on penetration in different substances and then carry on the penetration tests to meat.. like deer necks i saved for such purposes i found the little .223 may not be as bad as i thought. So the last 2 years i have used it to take many hogs .deer and coyote along with a lot of other critters. I have only used 55gr bullets as they grouped very well for me and less drop at distance than heavier ones and for deer 55gr was minimum legal size. I used the 55 V-Max # 22271 at first and after shooting many hundred i wanted to try the 55gr Hornady #2265 soft point. The SP penetrates deeper but does not hand grenade as well as the V-Max. And this allows the critter to travel a few yards before falling over. The V-max has not let any of my shot animals go any farther than 15 feet. 3198 fps from my 22" barrel and much less in the 16" and no difference in how it kills. But realize shot placement is key...The V-Max goes in about 2" then starts to come apart and the wound channel looks like an auger or paddle bit passed 8" through the hole it made. Right in the neck where the spine is at 400+ lb female hog.. DRT smaller hog and deer behind the crease of the shoulder right to the heart bang flop. One little piggy went 15 feet in a circle before he ran out of squeal, quartering away right through the crease and took out the heart. If the bullet pencils though the animal because of a strong constructed bullet you will be tracking the animal. I had some bullets like that in my .308 and seems the 30-30 at 2200fps is too slow to make my flat points expand well at 100-300 yards. That is when You must hit spine or nervous system if you can't track. a critter with small hole in the heart can go well over 200 yards before it expires. You explode the heart or rip the top all the way off and 80 yards max traveling distance is what i have seen. Some critters shot correctly sometimes will just not die though. so do not give up on a bullet combo on just 1 shot. I gave up on a 155gr Sierra after 3 critters shot and bang flop on me and then 8 seconds later get up and run off 200 yards. Pencil hole in and out Zero expansion. Those were moving fast also 3176fps from my 30-06. When they got hit it would pick them up off their feet and pound them to the ground. it was impressive.. probably muscle contraction doing that from the shock load they absorbed. [/QUOTE]
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