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<blockquote data-quote="AguaFriaRanger" data-source="post: 3780581" data-attributes="member: 48527"><p>Mission dictates gear, always. Hypothetically the communists come over the hill HERE in Oklahoma, AR or AK is fine. With all the rolling hills and thickets of trees in eastern Oklahoma, your maximum engagement range is rarely above 400m outside of urban areas. That said, out west where things flatten out and there are longer lines of sight on a regular basis, I think your AR starts to shine a bit if configured in a RECCE or SPR config. But again, Mission dictates gear. If all you're doing is holding down your house or similar bug out location, you might want a DMR like an AR-10 since weight doesn't matter. If you're doing a lot of movement with your weapon through terrain a light shortie AR or Krink (a real krink in 5.45 not a shortie AKM) might make the most sense. Etc Etc Etc.</p><p></p><p>All this said the whole AR is less reliable thing has been debunked time and time again. The ONLY area where the AK is the objectively more reliable rifle is in -extreme- cold. The kind of cold that we don't even see down here in Oklahoma. For everything else the AR might actually be the better pick because it can seal out the debris in the environment, whereas AKs cannot (excluding maybe the Galil ACE if we're allowing AK derivatives). ARs are also much better suppressor hosts, and can easily have field-adjustable gas if you're a builder (Yes AKs have the KNS piston but you have to field strip the rifle to adjust gas). The 5.56 cartridge has much better ballistics and a far larger choice of the bullet if you hand load. I -love- my AKs, and I would honestly take a cheap AK over a cheap AR because I think the AK design is a little more forgiving of poor QC, but if you're giving me a couple grand to build a dream kit for whatever whatever I'm using Stoner's gift to the free world.</p><p></p><p>If you're TEOTWAWKI prepping, I think they're both valid choices but the AR wins out due to the huge amount of ammo and parts availability from both civilian and government sources. Yes, there are plenty of good ol boys who stacked pallets of the soviet surplus ammo when it was cheap and have crates of SKSs, Mosins, and WASRs, occasionally. But there are police and military armories full of 5.56 and AR-compatible parts in every town in America. There are ammo depots with millions of rounds of 5.56 and 7.62x51 staged all around the country. The entire might of the US logistics machine has been working for nearly six decades now to ensure AR-15-derived rifles can stay in the fight. That's huge, and cannot be discarded. Anyway. Enough rambling from me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AguaFriaRanger, post: 3780581, member: 48527"] Mission dictates gear, always. Hypothetically the communists come over the hill HERE in Oklahoma, AR or AK is fine. With all the rolling hills and thickets of trees in eastern Oklahoma, your maximum engagement range is rarely above 400m outside of urban areas. That said, out west where things flatten out and there are longer lines of sight on a regular basis, I think your AR starts to shine a bit if configured in a RECCE or SPR config. But again, Mission dictates gear. If all you're doing is holding down your house or similar bug out location, you might want a DMR like an AR-10 since weight doesn't matter. If you're doing a lot of movement with your weapon through terrain a light shortie AR or Krink (a real krink in 5.45 not a shortie AKM) might make the most sense. Etc Etc Etc. All this said the whole AR is less reliable thing has been debunked time and time again. The ONLY area where the AK is the objectively more reliable rifle is in -extreme- cold. The kind of cold that we don't even see down here in Oklahoma. For everything else the AR might actually be the better pick because it can seal out the debris in the environment, whereas AKs cannot (excluding maybe the Galil ACE if we're allowing AK derivatives). ARs are also much better suppressor hosts, and can easily have field-adjustable gas if you're a builder (Yes AKs have the KNS piston but you have to field strip the rifle to adjust gas). The 5.56 cartridge has much better ballistics and a far larger choice of the bullet if you hand load. I -love- my AKs, and I would honestly take a cheap AK over a cheap AR because I think the AK design is a little more forgiving of poor QC, but if you're giving me a couple grand to build a dream kit for whatever whatever I'm using Stoner's gift to the free world. If you're TEOTWAWKI prepping, I think they're both valid choices but the AR wins out due to the huge amount of ammo and parts availability from both civilian and government sources. Yes, there are plenty of good ol boys who stacked pallets of the soviet surplus ammo when it was cheap and have crates of SKSs, Mosins, and WASRs, occasionally. But there are police and military armories full of 5.56 and AR-compatible parts in every town in America. There are ammo depots with millions of rounds of 5.56 and 7.62x51 staged all around the country. The entire might of the US logistics machine has been working for nearly six decades now to ensure AR-15-derived rifles can stay in the fight. That's huge, and cannot be discarded. Anyway. Enough rambling from me. [/QUOTE]
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