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<blockquote data-quote="wolfman1" data-source="post: 4226173" data-attributes="member: 53876"><p>Seems there is a mis understanding because of two separate issues.</p><p></p><p>Concerning the massacre and raping, of course it was wrong, I in no way support that. Inhuman. If it seems I meant anything else it was mistaken.</p><p></p><p>The other issue, the one I was speaking of, is the how and why, and consequences of the existence of the nation state Israel. Regardless of whether the land was stolen or purchased there is a deeper core issue at work.</p><p></p><p>If you accept Judaism for what it fundamentally is or was founded as, its a religion. The story of that religion, its people, and its relationship with its God, is contained in the Torah.</p><p></p><p>If you've studied the Torah, you'll learn that God told his people, the Jews, that they will no longer have a homeland or nation but will be dispersed to live amongst the peoples of the earth. By founding a nation for the Jews they are violating their God's command. That cannot have good consequences. Dont take my word for it, listen to an orthodox Rabbi lay it out. Invest ten minutes. I will spend at least that long investigating the stuff you gave me, which I appreciate.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]7S17Fr8z_Oo[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]o5VkA-QIGEY[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wolfman1, post: 4226173, member: 53876"] Seems there is a mis understanding because of two separate issues. Concerning the massacre and raping, of course it was wrong, I in no way support that. Inhuman. If it seems I meant anything else it was mistaken. The other issue, the one I was speaking of, is the how and why, and consequences of the existence of the nation state Israel. Regardless of whether the land was stolen or purchased there is a deeper core issue at work. If you accept Judaism for what it fundamentally is or was founded as, its a religion. The story of that religion, its people, and its relationship with its God, is contained in the Torah. If you've studied the Torah, you'll learn that God told his people, the Jews, that they will no longer have a homeland or nation but will be dispersed to live amongst the peoples of the earth. By founding a nation for the Jews they are violating their God's command. That cannot have good consequences. Dont take my word for it, listen to an orthodox Rabbi lay it out. Invest ten minutes. I will spend at least that long investigating the stuff you gave me, which I appreciate. [MEDIA=youtube]7S17Fr8z_Oo[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]o5VkA-QIGEY[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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