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Rez Exelon

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It's a wider platform for sure, although I believe they killed a bit of that with the fees. It did survive the mass exodus. I guess I just didn't get the money grab/exorbitant part. Maybe I consider the overhead of running something like that?

For a conservative board it's interesting how some complain that people actually charge money for a service.
People want to GET a fair price. Not GIVE a fair price. No matter what political ideology they claim. Similar situation happened with the stimmy checks. Everyone said they were horrible, terrible socialist commie giveaways, but you didn't hear of a single person that said no to them right?
 

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I've never bought anything off Armslist but I have sold several items, some quite expensive, but priced fairly.. I'm always interested in why people buy thru them so I always ask. The single most response I hear is that they don't want to have to go to internet forums to buy a gun because of all the bs on them. You see all kinds of people show up (or not). I've had just a couple off people not make the meet but get lots of lowball offers. Met many nice people there.
 

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Legal fees can easily be many $10k every single month for a million $ suit. And

It's a wider platform for sure, although I believe they killed a bit of that with the fees. It did survive the mass exodus. I guess I just didn't get the money grab/exorbitant part. Maybe I consider the overhead of running something like that?

For a conservative board it's interesting how some complain that people actually charge money for a service.
You're definitely missing my point.

I will pay money for something worth my money. I will not pay for something that I can find equivalent elsewhere for less. Do you shop at whole foods for milk and eggs?

My point was that it's expensive for what's being provided, and if their litigation is the issue, increasing the price to $7 a month while offering nothing new; scratch that, actively reducing their user base in the process, is not a good business model nor the best choice unless the point is to take in more cash under the guise of being the victim of litigation.

Wouldn't it make more sense to either close your doors in states that want you out, or offer more stringent processes for said states? Instead, they charge everyone membership that's pricey for what is offered and diminish their user base and footprint which I'm imagining will lead eventually to the platform's demise.
 

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I'd be willing to pay it if I bought much of anything on there....that's not a big deal. I will say though, I look on there basically daily and since they went to a paid subscription service, I've not seen anything that is of interest to me worth inquiring about. I think the last one I got was around November of 2019.
 
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You're definitely missing my point.

I will pay money for something worth my money. I will not pay for something that I can find equivalent elsewhere for less. Do you shop at whole foods for milk and eggs?

My point was that it's expensive for what's being provided, and if their litigation is the issue, increasing the price to $7 a month while offering nothing new; scratch that, actively reducing their user base in the process, is not a good business model nor the best choice unless the point is to take in more cash under the guise of being the victim of litigation.

Wouldn't it make more sense to either close your doors in states that want you out, or offer more stringent processes for said states? Instead, they charge everyone membership that's pricey for what is offered and diminish their user base and footprint which I'm imagining will lead eventually to the platform's demise.

No, but I shop at Costco and their milk ain't cheap but I prefer it. Not that Whole Foods is a good example..... again.... we are talking about $5. I don't think that makes or breaks most people that honestly shoot.

I get your point. I just understand the cost of owning a website. Do you somehow believe that there's an Oklahoma site that has the same traffic as Armslist? You're comparing apples to oranges and the notion that you just cut out a few states to circumvent legal exposure is just silly.
 

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No, but I shop at Costco and their milk ain't cheap but I prefer it. Not that Whole Foods is a good example..... again.... we are talking about $5. I don't think that makes or breaks most people that honestly shoot.

I get your point. I just understand the cost of owning a website. Do you somehow believe that there's an Oklahoma site that has the same traffic as Armslist? You're comparing apples to oranges and the notion that you just cut out a few states to circumvent legal exposure is just silly.
Is it really? That seems to be how carry insurance works. States that offer too much liability or actively impede lawful carry are off the table. I dont think traffic has anything to do with it. It's all about legal liability. If 90% of that liability rests in 8-10 states, logic would serve to omit them, no?

I also understand the cost of a website. Armslist has their ads as well. Cant imagine that they need that much server space for a few low res photos and simple messaging system. There are plenty of large sites that offer such services for free. Anyhow, I'm over it, you win man. Happy 4th
 

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Is it really? That seems to be how carry insurance works. States that offer too much liability or actively impede lawful carry are off the table. I dont think traffic has anything to do with it. It's all about legal liability. If 90% of that liability rests in 8-10 states, logic would serve to omit them, no?

I also understand the cost of a website. Armslist has their ads as well. Cant imagine that they need that much server space for a few low res photos and simple messaging system. There are plenty of large sites that offer such services for free. Anyhow, I'm over it, you win man. Happy 4th

Carry "insurance" is an apples to oranges as well. With regards to Armslist, most of those state you'd probably knock off the table have laws that require FFL transfer between private parties. Thus negating a lot of risk. Then again, maybe it's just a risk they'll take. Take Illinois for example, they have requested 5 Million NICS checks through June of this year..... Oklahoma? under 200,000.

To your comment about Traffic, it's an extremely important aspect to a seller that is even somewhat aggressive about selling their firearm. SO while you may be paying what you consider an extreme amount of ~$5-7 a month, your exposure is considerably better than any other Oklahoma based site I can think of.

Finally, one aspect of the charge for service system that we are not exploring is that it probably weeds out a number of criminals just by requiring to sign up and give CC or banking info.

Glad your over it, there's no reason to let a company that charges $5-7 a month for a service, live rent free in your head. :D. Cheers, Happy 4th.
 
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