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As I predicted, voting is meaningless
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<blockquote data-quote="joegrizzy" data-source="post: 3807750" data-attributes="member: 45524"><p>but then there's even the issue of voting records being manipulating on things like poison pill pork legislation and whatnot.</p><p></p><p>no one knows what's in every bill, and you get situations like the dems saying "we put forward a bill (again, written by people who aren't politicians. not a single politician actually *drafts* any part; in fact most are written completely by either lobbyists, staffers, or agency reps) that would lower gas prices and these people voted against it".</p><p></p><p>yes, this comes to voter recognition of the legislation, but like i said, i link a 40 minute video and i know for a fact not a single person ever actually watches it. imagine someone actually reading a 5,000+ page bill that's filled with intentionally esoteric language and meant to be either purposefully vague or otherwise cover up its true purpose.</p><p></p><p>like the "patriot act", or the "heros act". it's a legislative play when you are in a minority position to put forth bills you know have no chance, or even amend ala the magic paperclip a bill already proposed, that will force your opponents to vote no. then you call the bill something positive and claim it's something it wasn't and the people say "SEE! HE VOTED NO ON THE SAVE THE DAY BILL! IT WOULDA SAVED THE DAY!"</p><p></p><p>the system is broken. it's layers and layers and layers of things pretending to be something they aren't. that's.....not good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="joegrizzy, post: 3807750, member: 45524"] but then there's even the issue of voting records being manipulating on things like poison pill pork legislation and whatnot. no one knows what's in every bill, and you get situations like the dems saying "we put forward a bill (again, written by people who aren't politicians. not a single politician actually *drafts* any part; in fact most are written completely by either lobbyists, staffers, or agency reps) that would lower gas prices and these people voted against it". yes, this comes to voter recognition of the legislation, but like i said, i link a 40 minute video and i know for a fact not a single person ever actually watches it. imagine someone actually reading a 5,000+ page bill that's filled with intentionally esoteric language and meant to be either purposefully vague or otherwise cover up its true purpose. like the "patriot act", or the "heros act". it's a legislative play when you are in a minority position to put forth bills you know have no chance, or even amend ala the magic paperclip a bill already proposed, that will force your opponents to vote no. then you call the bill something positive and claim it's something it wasn't and the people say "SEE! HE VOTED NO ON THE SAVE THE DAY BILL! IT WOULDA SAVED THE DAY!" the system is broken. it's layers and layers and layers of things pretending to be something they aren't. that's.....not good. [/QUOTE]
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