ATF to ban an unknown model of stabilising brace.

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tRidiot

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It's more legislation by rule, making criminals of people who have broken no law, only run afoul of unelected bureaucrats and their 'interepretation' of things not governed by law.

Making previously-legal personal properly illegal should require Congressional debate and Presidential approval.

One of my friends whom is very straightlaced, sober and intelligent told me he is ready to abolish the ATF and kick off the boogaloo.
 

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Without jack-booted thugs willing to enforce such nonsense, these are just bad ideas.

Please remember that when you support your local LEOs, they'll be the ones escorting you downtown if you break these laws.

Why should free men have someone telling them what they may or may not possess?
 

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What about stocks in general? Are they protected? Handguards? Are they protected? We could go down a whole laundry list of parts of a gun that aren’t protected. If you want to buy that reasoning, they could outlaw all kinds of parts to guns and make any functioning gun almost useless because any given part that isn’t part that doesn’t render it inoperable would be fair game.
As long as your barrel is 16"on a rifle your good to go.
I've been watching this for a while and some of the new "Braces" have no way to attach to your arm and look like regular stocks just shorter.
Why does a Broomhandle, a Luger, a Browning hi-power have to have a tax stamp for their holster brace thingee and these others don't?
Makes you wonder how they ever got approved in the first place.
 

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I knew it would happen eventually. The atf can do whatever they want with no one to stop them. The Supreme Court sure ain’t gonna do it. This is one of the main reason we
Will be disarmed. They are chipping away one piece at a time. They know people won’t like it but that’s it. Nothing will happen. Then next they take suppressors. Then sbr’s. Then “assault rifles”. Get the picture??

And if these aren’t protected under the constitution then neither is pistol grips, hand guards, sights, triggers, magazines, slings, stocks, etc. As was said in an earlier post, with this logic the atf can literally ban enough parts to make firearms inoperable. In my opinion, braces and every other item that goes on or in a gun is protected by the constitution. But I’m sure there are many in the 2A community that will be saying “who cares if they ban them. The person should have paid the $200 extortion fee to sbr their firearm”. Oh and don’t forget to pay someone to engrave the lower for you.
 

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What about stocks in general? Are they protected? Handguards? Are they protected? We could go down a whole laundry list of parts of a gun that aren’t protected. If you want to buy that reasoning, they could outlaw all kinds of parts to guns and make any functioning gun almost useless because any given part that isn’t part that doesn’t render it inoperable would be fair game.
Stocks, etc in general are protected (caveat) if they meet ATF approval. As you well know politicians have given up their legislative powers to the mega bureaucratic agencies that now generate laws where in the past our elected legislators were responsible to do that because they are afraid of not being reelected if they pass the stupid laws the ATF does when the political waves give them additional power.
I don't GAF about the length of anybody's stock or trigger choice, but the swamp does and that who we need to be worried about.
 

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As long as your barrel is 16"on a rifle your good to go.
I've been watching this for a while and some of the new "Braces" have no way to attach to your arm and look like regular stocks just shorter.
Why does a Broomhandle, a Luger, a Browning hi-power have to have a tax stamp for their holster brace thingee and these others don't?
Makes you wonder how they ever got approved in the first place.
Yes, just another gimmick to get around a regulation that comes back and bites our community on the arse when some idiot uses them to commit crimes creating a knee jerk reaction from the politicians that reverberates into the ATF.
 

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Trying to work around rules made by IRS, ATF, etc. most often results in more rules. I know all the arguments, but truly the only way we can try to get rid of rules by agencies is through our elected representatives.
 

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