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<blockquote data-quote="JonDough" data-source="post: 1850607" data-attributes="member: 24427"><p>My family actually knows family members of one of the people that was shot (not killed, thank God) in the attack. He (the injured party) said the guy started with the shotgun, and it jammed...then he went to the AR....(he must have short stroked the shotgun or something)....anyway he was hit in the leg with a round from the shotgun and is going to be ok, or such is the prognosis so far.</p><p></p><p> One of the things I find appauling is the media and some government officials and of course some public type figures that IMMEDIATELY jump on the "gun laws" bandwagon. These people are nothing but PIMPS for their cause. They USE people's deaths and suffering to further their anti gun cause. </p><p></p><p> Ok .... let me explain this really simply for the media types...and i'll type slow. It's already illegal to shoot at folks for no reason. It's allready illegal to murder, or attempt to murder people.It's allready illegal to walk into a theater and start shooting. Get a grip. How many people are killed in planes every year? How many people are killed in or by chevrolets every year? How many .................. you get the picture!!!</p><p></p><p> And another thing is....while reading some of the posts on this thread, it really gets to me how a few folks are saying stuff like " You haven't had training or been in combat...blah blah.." " Only someone who's been in a combat situation is able to say what they'd do...." What utter ********. You don't have to have been in "combat" or have law enforcement training to know EXACTLY what you'd do in a situation like that. True...some folks would freeze up, or whatever...JUST AS SOME DO IN COMBAT..., but you as a person in your heart and soul KNOW what you'd do....it's WHO YOU ARE, not what classroom you've sat in, or what war or conflict you've served in. NO disrespect to those who HAVE seen battle, or those in Law enforcement, but sitting here on the internet telling people what THEY would or wouldn't do is something i call BS on big time. I haven't been in a "combat situation" and i sure don't have any law enforcement training...but i know EXACTLY what i'd do if in that situation and i had a weapon.......adapt and overcome.........sure i'd be in awe for a few seconds, wondering wtf???....i'd start trying to process the situation, i'd shove my friends or family into the safest place i could find at the moment, then i'd start scanning to find out where the bad guy is and how i can put into effect his demise or draw his attention off long enough to do something....and how to get my folks and others to a safer location if possible... It's really simple and it's BASIC. It's NOT superman, it's not Audie Murphy, and it's not Alvin York.... it's not anything but how you'd react, and you don't have to have a certificate on your wall to know what to do and how to react in the most effective way possible. </p><p></p><p> If you are one of those telling someone "you wouldn't do anything even if you have a weapon" then what do people have weapons permits for anyway? Should noone be able to carry except for you rangers that obviously are supierior to everyone else? What about the second amendment that we all spout off about all the time??? You should be MORE AFFECTED BY THE FACT THAT NOONE IN THAT THEATRE COULD LEGALLY carry their weapon into that venue...and you can DAMN SURE BET that the perpetrator KNEW THAT fact. He KNEW there's be no resistance!!!!! He was a COWARD that went into a LAW HOBBLED environment and took advantage of the fact that he knew all the law abiding citizens within would NOT create a danger to his candy ass. I'll close by saying this ...if you are one of those telling people what they would or wouldn't do...or could or couldn't do...you don't know what the HELL you are talking about. Unless you know that person, and have a valid reason to say what you are, then you're just talking out of your rear. </p><p></p><p></p><p> I pray for the victims and their families and friends.</p><p></p><p> Peace n stuff..........</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonDough, post: 1850607, member: 24427"] My family actually knows family members of one of the people that was shot (not killed, thank God) in the attack. He (the injured party) said the guy started with the shotgun, and it jammed...then he went to the AR....(he must have short stroked the shotgun or something)....anyway he was hit in the leg with a round from the shotgun and is going to be ok, or such is the prognosis so far. One of the things I find appauling is the media and some government officials and of course some public type figures that IMMEDIATELY jump on the "gun laws" bandwagon. These people are nothing but PIMPS for their cause. They USE people's deaths and suffering to further their anti gun cause. Ok .... let me explain this really simply for the media types...and i'll type slow. It's already illegal to shoot at folks for no reason. It's allready illegal to murder, or attempt to murder people.It's allready illegal to walk into a theater and start shooting. Get a grip. How many people are killed in planes every year? How many people are killed in or by chevrolets every year? How many .................. you get the picture!!! And another thing is....while reading some of the posts on this thread, it really gets to me how a few folks are saying stuff like " You haven't had training or been in combat...blah blah.." " Only someone who's been in a combat situation is able to say what they'd do...." What utter ********. You don't have to have been in "combat" or have law enforcement training to know EXACTLY what you'd do in a situation like that. True...some folks would freeze up, or whatever...JUST AS SOME DO IN COMBAT..., but you as a person in your heart and soul KNOW what you'd do....it's WHO YOU ARE, not what classroom you've sat in, or what war or conflict you've served in. NO disrespect to those who HAVE seen battle, or those in Law enforcement, but sitting here on the internet telling people what THEY would or wouldn't do is something i call BS on big time. I haven't been in a "combat situation" and i sure don't have any law enforcement training...but i know EXACTLY what i'd do if in that situation and i had a weapon.......adapt and overcome.........sure i'd be in awe for a few seconds, wondering wtf???....i'd start trying to process the situation, i'd shove my friends or family into the safest place i could find at the moment, then i'd start scanning to find out where the bad guy is and how i can put into effect his demise or draw his attention off long enough to do something....and how to get my folks and others to a safer location if possible... It's really simple and it's BASIC. It's NOT superman, it's not Audie Murphy, and it's not Alvin York.... it's not anything but how you'd react, and you don't have to have a certificate on your wall to know what to do and how to react in the most effective way possible. If you are one of those telling someone "you wouldn't do anything even if you have a weapon" then what do people have weapons permits for anyway? Should noone be able to carry except for you rangers that obviously are supierior to everyone else? What about the second amendment that we all spout off about all the time??? You should be MORE AFFECTED BY THE FACT THAT NOONE IN THAT THEATRE COULD LEGALLY carry their weapon into that venue...and you can DAMN SURE BET that the perpetrator KNEW THAT fact. He KNEW there's be no resistance!!!!! He was a COWARD that went into a LAW HOBBLED environment and took advantage of the fact that he knew all the law abiding citizens within would NOT create a danger to his candy ass. I'll close by saying this ...if you are one of those telling people what they would or wouldn't do...or could or couldn't do...you don't know what the HELL you are talking about. Unless you know that person, and have a valid reason to say what you are, then you're just talking out of your rear. I pray for the victims and their families and friends. Peace n stuff.......... [/QUOTE]
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