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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow" data-source="post: 1492419" data-attributes="member: 7123"><p>First I've heard of the CVA Stalkers; thanks.</p><p></p><p>How do they measure up against the NEF & Rossi?</p><p></p><p>I had an NEF that had sticky chamber ejection problems, and then a Rossi that flew open when you shot it. Both .243, so I'm leery of cheap single shot break actions. The Rossi had better features/innovation, though.</p><p></p><p>And oh yeah, listen to whisky - don't get packages - the scopes and rings suck.</p><p></p><p>and yeah, I'd get a Marlin or Stevens before Mossberg, simply because of the allegations (unproven) of catastrophic failure and bolts going through faces. I hope they're not true. In a way, I kinda hope they are true, since their reputation has been damaged - be nice to think it's deserved. But if it's not true, I hope they clear their name and sell a lot of them.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2797707/1" target="_blank">http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2797707/1</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2621471/1" target="_blank">http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2621471/1</a></p><p></p><p>If you look at that 2nd thread, in my limited understanding of exactly how the bolt action on a Mossberg works, it *might* be possibly to turn the handle and have it slip due to the press fitting, and not actually have the bolt close up and engage locking lugs. Which *could* turn into bad mojo if the gun would fire. But I don't see how it could fire if the bolt isn't closed - surely there's a mechanism for preventing the rifle from firing when the bolt isn't closed, just like every other turnbolt design since the Mauser brothers? So I dunno.....</p><p></p><p>Regardles, a Marlin or Stevens is better period.</p><p></p><p>Here - they settled out of court, so we don't really know the merits of the claims:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.boliven.com/legal_proceeding/8:07-cv-00262-JSM-TBM?q=" target="_blank">http://www.boliven.com/legal_proceeding/8:07-cv-00262-JSM-TBM?q=</a></p><p></p><p>Looks to me like the $600/hour New York & Atlanta lawyers for Mossberg buried the little lone plaintiff's attorney in paperwork, who is working for free unless and until they win or settle (look at the hundreds of entries she had to respond to), just wearing down the plaintiff until they settled - happens all the time. So we don't know what really happened from that link. There was an allegation that it was the plaintiff's fault, because he disassembled the bolt and re-assembled it incorrectly, but who knows....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow, post: 1492419, member: 7123"] First I've heard of the CVA Stalkers; thanks. How do they measure up against the NEF & Rossi? I had an NEF that had sticky chamber ejection problems, and then a Rossi that flew open when you shot it. Both .243, so I'm leery of cheap single shot break actions. The Rossi had better features/innovation, though. And oh yeah, listen to whisky - don't get packages - the scopes and rings suck. and yeah, I'd get a Marlin or Stevens before Mossberg, simply because of the allegations (unproven) of catastrophic failure and bolts going through faces. I hope they're not true. In a way, I kinda hope they are true, since their reputation has been damaged - be nice to think it's deserved. But if it's not true, I hope they clear their name and sell a lot of them. [url]http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2797707/1[/url] [url]http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2621471/1[/url] If you look at that 2nd thread, in my limited understanding of exactly how the bolt action on a Mossberg works, it *might* be possibly to turn the handle and have it slip due to the press fitting, and not actually have the bolt close up and engage locking lugs. Which *could* turn into bad mojo if the gun would fire. But I don't see how it could fire if the bolt isn't closed - surely there's a mechanism for preventing the rifle from firing when the bolt isn't closed, just like every other turnbolt design since the Mauser brothers? So I dunno..... Regardles, a Marlin or Stevens is better period. Here - they settled out of court, so we don't really know the merits of the claims: [url]http://www.boliven.com/legal_proceeding/8:07-cv-00262-JSM-TBM?q=[/url] Looks to me like the $600/hour New York & Atlanta lawyers for Mossberg buried the little lone plaintiff's attorney in paperwork, who is working for free unless and until they win or settle (look at the hundreds of entries she had to respond to), just wearing down the plaintiff until they settled - happens all the time. So we don't know what really happened from that link. There was an allegation that it was the plaintiff's fault, because he disassembled the bolt and re-assembled it incorrectly, but who knows.... [/QUOTE]
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