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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RickN, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. Fredkrueger100

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    I know what you mean. I get that by many on here when I say it. But then again, Americans are so spoiled and lazy I have a hard time seeing anything being done. I mean when is it gonna be enough? Look at all the gun control we have had put into law since 1934 and we haven’t done didly squat about it. All I ever hear is that we need to vote and email and call our reps. I am done voting for federal elections. I will not vote for Trump regardless of who might win. He is anti gun and I won’t vote for him. That is the problem we have in this country. Instead of not voting for someone when they violate their oath people say “ would you rather it be so and so?” No I wouldn’t but I ain’t voting for the person that broke their oath. If everyone did this all the scum wouldn’t get re-elected. It’s called holding their feet to the fire. But sadly that won’t ever happen. No matter what these politicians do people will continue to vote for them. And then try and justify it by saying “it’s the lesser of two evils”. If that is the reason your voting for a person then you shouldn’t be voting.
     
  2. Snattlerake

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    I hate to stir the pot but not voting because you are mad for the one and only person who is really accomplishing things he said he would is exactly like the apathy and comfort you have called out. The results are the same.
     
  3. FreeSpiritBalloon

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    I am extremely disappointed with President Trump’s latest statements also but we can’t let a Democrat in the White House before justice Ginsburg retires. Just keep that in mind. It’s more important for the long game so I will have to vote for him again.


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  4. druryj

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    Well, if contacting our reps and voting isn't the answer, which I for one have often said is very important, then what do you think should we do?

    In reality, not voting is...voting.
     
  5. RickN

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    Is it better to vote for someone that you can pressure like Trump, or let the rabid anti-gunners vote their people in who do not give a crap about your rights? They only care about what their base tells them.

    Personally I have been e-mailing my reps and Trump and sending them tweets about the issue because Trump has changed his tune before when faced by a big backlash from his base.
     
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    One thing I'm getting tired of is people saying they're getting tired of not doing anything, letting all this happen, they're really pissed that nobody's doing anything, but they have no plan of action and don't say what they think people should be doing.

    You're pissed? Me too.
    Now: what do we do about it, today, tomorrow, this week?!!

    Speak up!! What do we do?!

    Most of our ilk are hard working, leave-me-alone I-don't-want-the-spotlight-in-my-life types, don't call attention to ourselves.
    Up to now we figure peaceful voting will keep things going our way, but the new urban population and media and big money like Bloomberg are more than just voting will take care of.

    So, WHAT DO WE DO?

    I think it will take a major figure or org (NOT the NRA) to call for some major rallies, media coverage, honest talk about gun stats.
    How do we make that happen?

    Should we all contact GOA and ask them to start something? Colin Noire? He's too close to the NRA. Dana Lesch, nope.

    So, complainers, what do we do?
     
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  7. chuter

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    And, there's the possibility that the world turns and it's time for our types to melt away and let human change to whatever, even though our culture and values will be gone.

    It's happened before, maybe it's out time.
     
  8. tRidiot

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    Good question.

    I don't know.

    I do know making yourself a target means you're going to be one of the first they come after when they do get back in power - and they will be back in a power in just a few years. 2020, 2024, whenever. I also don't agree with not voting. I agree with going through the proper channels, with pressuring our elected representatives, etc.

    I'm sorry if I don't have all the answers. And I'm not calling to 'take up arms' like so many others. But I am afraid it is going to come down to violence in the end, now when that end comes about is the big question. 5, 10, 50 or 100 years? I don't know, but I think we're on a path right now that doesn't allow for a peaceful reconciliation.
     
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    I think of getting local media to cover local shooting sports, to see that normal people like having guns and do normal safe and fun family stuff.

    Inviting the media more into the shooting world could backfire depending on how they spin it. They could ask participants leading questions. I'm guessing a lot of us wouldn't come off too well in the spotlight, given the way any comment is spun and twisted nowadays.
    I've got some great thoughts in my head (don't we all), but I know I easily get flustered and confrontational when pressed, so it wouldn't be a good idea to put me in front of a camera.
     
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