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<blockquote data-quote="dennishoddy" data-source="post: 3682004" data-attributes="member: 5412"><p>Well, there have been tens of thousands of elk/griz/moose killed with a muzzle loader, or a lever action 30-30. The Alaskan Inuit's sometimes use the 30-30 to kill polar bears as seen on some outdoor shows.</p><p>How many were lost to bad shots? Probably just as many as those with expensive guns that don't know how to shoot them if the truth were known. </p><p>I took a guy elk hunting a couple years ago with a Savage .338 Lapua using a Schmitt Bender scope that exceeded $4000.00 in cost. </p><p>He emptied a mag on an elk that just stood there at just over 400 yards with it finally walking my direction. He didn't understand shooting downhill at a 60 degree angle. I dropped it with a 30-06.</p><p>In 12 hunts the 30-06 Browning Stainless Stalker with synthetic stock has taken elk 10 times with ranges out to 590 yards. One shot kill's using Barnes 165 grain TTSX bullets. Only one bullet recovered from an elk at 590 yards under the skin on the far side. </p><p>You can't be a 100 yard range shooter and expect to hit an animal at 300 yards plus at high altitudes. All the metrics change. Temperature, air density, powder reaction to cold weather, shooting up hill, down hill and so on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dennishoddy, post: 3682004, member: 5412"] Well, there have been tens of thousands of elk/griz/moose killed with a muzzle loader, or a lever action 30-30. The Alaskan Inuit's sometimes use the 30-30 to kill polar bears as seen on some outdoor shows. How many were lost to bad shots? Probably just as many as those with expensive guns that don't know how to shoot them if the truth were known. I took a guy elk hunting a couple years ago with a Savage .338 Lapua using a Schmitt Bender scope that exceeded $4000.00 in cost. He emptied a mag on an elk that just stood there at just over 400 yards with it finally walking my direction. He didn't understand shooting downhill at a 60 degree angle. I dropped it with a 30-06. In 12 hunts the 30-06 Browning Stainless Stalker with synthetic stock has taken elk 10 times with ranges out to 590 yards. One shot kill's using Barnes 165 grain TTSX bullets. Only one bullet recovered from an elk at 590 yards under the skin on the far side. You can't be a 100 yard range shooter and expect to hit an animal at 300 yards plus at high altitudes. All the metrics change. Temperature, air density, powder reaction to cold weather, shooting up hill, down hill and so on. [/QUOTE]
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