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Billionaire's gift eliminates student loan debt for 396 students.
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<blockquote data-quote="inactive" data-source="post: 3236909" data-attributes="member: 7488"><p>So my wife has taught and been in administrative rules for well over a decade at 4 different universities, including OU, OSU, and TU.</p><p></p><p>Most who don't have a research burden teach upwards of 5-6 sections each semester. That's 3 hours of class time per week per section, so you can extrapolate the hours teaching + office hours + other ancillary work from there. Those with research obligations in their contracts are on a reduced schedule, typically around 2 sections at a time. Though sometimes 1, and sometimes 0 if the research is prioritized by their departments that highly.</p><p></p><p>Remember that teachers - even tenured - are on a 9 month contract for what they work and what they get paid for that term. Pay differs by the field taught (i.e. Law professors make more than Athletic Training, for example), amount of research, the funding grants if research is in the contracts, and sections taught. Tenured professors can take a sabbatical even, but they don't get paid for their doing nothing. Non-tenured lecturers can make make decent money just by teaching 7 sections of a high-enrollment class (think College Algebra or something).</p><p></p><p>There's definitely the old, lazy tenured professors still out there phoning it in and milking the university teat. But it's a bit unfair to paint all in academia with the same brush, as their employment circumstances are VERY different across fields and institutions. Especially given the budgets being squeezed across all institutions, and many faculty are being pushed to teach more and more sections that before (which IMHO is a generally good thing, for the record). And no small reason is that students are wising up and passing on the debt and time burden of college to seek out more vocational or applied science type careers (particularly 2 year medical tech programs at vo-techs and community colleges)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="inactive, post: 3236909, member: 7488"] So my wife has taught and been in administrative rules for well over a decade at 4 different universities, including OU, OSU, and TU. Most who don't have a research burden teach upwards of 5-6 sections each semester. That's 3 hours of class time per week per section, so you can extrapolate the hours teaching + office hours + other ancillary work from there. Those with research obligations in their contracts are on a reduced schedule, typically around 2 sections at a time. Though sometimes 1, and sometimes 0 if the research is prioritized by their departments that highly. Remember that teachers - even tenured - are on a 9 month contract for what they work and what they get paid for that term. Pay differs by the field taught (i.e. Law professors make more than Athletic Training, for example), amount of research, the funding grants if research is in the contracts, and sections taught. Tenured professors can take a sabbatical even, but they don't get paid for their doing nothing. Non-tenured lecturers can make make decent money just by teaching 7 sections of a high-enrollment class (think College Algebra or something). There's definitely the old, lazy tenured professors still out there phoning it in and milking the university teat. But it's a bit unfair to paint all in academia with the same brush, as their employment circumstances are VERY different across fields and institutions. Especially given the budgets being squeezed across all institutions, and many faculty are being pushed to teach more and more sections that before (which IMHO is a generally good thing, for the record). And no small reason is that students are wising up and passing on the debt and time burden of college to seek out more vocational or applied science type careers (particularly 2 year medical tech programs at vo-techs and community colleges) [/QUOTE]
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