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<blockquote data-quote="JD8" data-source="post: 3237116" data-attributes="member: 24"><p>Here's the thing, to your complaints about laziness and funding or whatever..... currently in Oklahoma 27% of the funding comes from the state. Opposed to ~70% thirty years ago. When did you live with that professor? Times have changed it seems. So you're getting what you want going by the numbers. </p><p></p><p>I don't necessarily think the college system in Oklahoma is nearly as bloated as the public system. If we venture out of state, then all bets are off from what I've seen. Do you honestly think that OU is pumping out the women's studies majors by the thousands? If so, then like I've been saying, head to campus. This isn't say that they are perfect either, I can see some changes like TU has done in terms of consolidating programs that are hemorrhaging money for sure. But, I have a little less concern about colleges because you cannot force people to take certain classes. We are talking adults, or we should hold them accountable as such. IMO you're probably going to have to lead by example or institute a culture change, in which, in my opinion I don't claim to have a vast knowledge of college, I'm just relaying that if you step on campus you'll see that a majority of professors don't only teach one class, not even close. On the other hand, the public system is quite a different story and definitely needs consolidation. </p><p></p><p>To your question though, I broker commercial insurance and bonds and mainly specialize in the construction, manufacturing, and transportation sectors. Which is a polar opposite of what I went to school for, but that doesn't mean that education hasn't helped me along the way. Either way, I see all sorts of contractors, journeymen, small, large business owners, on a daily basis. Whether it's the employee or employer, you see wide range of work ethic, integrity and business practices. I see guys trying to start up businesses left and right that could benefit from a simple finance or business class, and I also see junior out of college wanting to start a business when he should've come back and worked for his dad's business on the ground level for a while, or any business for that matter. So the clichés can go both ways. The "us vs them" mentality is tiring, the guys that have the boots on the ground experience AND at least a remedial knowledge of business and finance and vice versa, are typically the ones that I see that are the most successful. What I'm getting at is that education is a tool, be it at college or a trade program, whatever.... it's all about how you use it to your advantage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JD8, post: 3237116, member: 24"] Here's the thing, to your complaints about laziness and funding or whatever..... currently in Oklahoma 27% of the funding comes from the state. Opposed to ~70% thirty years ago. When did you live with that professor? Times have changed it seems. So you're getting what you want going by the numbers. I don't necessarily think the college system in Oklahoma is nearly as bloated as the public system. If we venture out of state, then all bets are off from what I've seen. Do you honestly think that OU is pumping out the women's studies majors by the thousands? If so, then like I've been saying, head to campus. This isn't say that they are perfect either, I can see some changes like TU has done in terms of consolidating programs that are hemorrhaging money for sure. But, I have a little less concern about colleges because you cannot force people to take certain classes. We are talking adults, or we should hold them accountable as such. IMO you're probably going to have to lead by example or institute a culture change, in which, in my opinion I don't claim to have a vast knowledge of college, I'm just relaying that if you step on campus you'll see that a majority of professors don't only teach one class, not even close. On the other hand, the public system is quite a different story and definitely needs consolidation. To your question though, I broker commercial insurance and bonds and mainly specialize in the construction, manufacturing, and transportation sectors. Which is a polar opposite of what I went to school for, but that doesn't mean that education hasn't helped me along the way. Either way, I see all sorts of contractors, journeymen, small, large business owners, on a daily basis. Whether it's the employee or employer, you see wide range of work ethic, integrity and business practices. I see guys trying to start up businesses left and right that could benefit from a simple finance or business class, and I also see junior out of college wanting to start a business when he should've come back and worked for his dad's business on the ground level for a while, or any business for that matter. So the clichés can go both ways. The "us vs them" mentality is tiring, the guys that have the boots on the ground experience AND at least a remedial knowledge of business and finance and vice versa, are typically the ones that I see that are the most successful. What I'm getting at is that education is a tool, be it at college or a trade program, whatever.... it's all about how you use it to your advantage. [/QUOTE]
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