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<blockquote data-quote="Frederick" data-source="post: 2990082" data-attributes="member: 17825"><p>I don't think Islam itself is the problem. Christianity used to be pretty violent, too. If you recall all those burnings and crusades. We've killed a lot of people in the name of Christianity.</p><p></p><p>The thing about religion is that it's used by a lot of powerful people as a way to influence others and make excuses for horrific crimes. You've got these clerics in the middle east who teach these hateful versions of Islam and then use it for their own political purposes. The pope himself used to run Europe for centuries before the protestant reformation spread across Europe and England split off from the Church. Islam itself was created by a violent warlord as a means to control people and make excuses for all the horrible things he did(such as killing 'infidels.')</p><p></p><p>The problem with Islam isn't merely a religious one, in my opinion it's also a cultural one. Christian extremism is also dangerous, but it's not as exploited for that purpose as islamic extremism is. Culturally, Americans have simply ignored large parts of what used to be practiced as Christianity. For centuries, it was illegal to translate the Holy Bible from Latin, in order to control the influence of Religion and control how it was taught by the Church.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, most muslims get their ideas of Islam from clerics who spread hatred and call for jihad. Many governments in the Middle East fund programs to teach these uneducated masses violent forms of Islam like Wahabism.</p><p></p><p>I read a study somewhere that said most Terrorists/suicide bombers come from middle class, well-to-do muslim families. These aren't poverty stricken farmers blowing themselves up, a lot of them are very privileged people, compared to the average. Why do they turn towards extremism and violence? I think there is a social, cultural and political answer that transcends the religion of Islam itself. Islam, like most other religions, has a lot more to do with interpretation and exploitation than the actual religion itself. It is a social construct.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/markhumphrys.com_Images_383.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frederick, post: 2990082, member: 17825"] I don't think Islam itself is the problem. Christianity used to be pretty violent, too. If you recall all those burnings and crusades. We've killed a lot of people in the name of Christianity. The thing about religion is that it's used by a lot of powerful people as a way to influence others and make excuses for horrific crimes. You've got these clerics in the middle east who teach these hateful versions of Islam and then use it for their own political purposes. The pope himself used to run Europe for centuries before the protestant reformation spread across Europe and England split off from the Church. Islam itself was created by a violent warlord as a means to control people and make excuses for all the horrible things he did(such as killing 'infidels.') The problem with Islam isn't merely a religious one, in my opinion it's also a cultural one. Christian extremism is also dangerous, but it's not as exploited for that purpose as islamic extremism is. Culturally, Americans have simply ignored large parts of what used to be practiced as Christianity. For centuries, it was illegal to translate the Holy Bible from Latin, in order to control the influence of Religion and control how it was taught by the Church. Similarly, most muslims get their ideas of Islam from clerics who spread hatred and call for jihad. Many governments in the Middle East fund programs to teach these uneducated masses violent forms of Islam like Wahabism. I read a study somewhere that said most Terrorists/suicide bombers come from middle class, well-to-do muslim families. These aren't poverty stricken farmers blowing themselves up, a lot of them are very privileged people, compared to the average. Why do they turn towards extremism and violence? I think there is a social, cultural and political answer that transcends the religion of Islam itself. Islam, like most other religions, has a lot more to do with interpretation and exploitation than the actual religion itself. It is a social construct. [IMG]https://www.okshooters.com/data/MetaMirrorCache/markhumphrys.com_Images_383.png[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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