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<blockquote data-quote="WhiteyMacD" data-source="post: 1260763" data-attributes="member: 7633"><p>I wasnt getting upset. I was offering what I knew from 8 years of competitive experience and 20+ years of hunting experience. I have no issues with over and unders since I have been shooting them since I was 10.</p><p></p><p>But to counter your talk here:</p><p>Accuracy: I corrected my use of the term accuracy. Pattern convergence is an issue with any dual barrel system. You dont have to believe me, ask the pros.</p><p>Recoil: I never said a 12 ga from a fixed breech is too much for *me*. I shoot a lot larger than 12 ga from over/unders and breakovers no problem. However, not everyone is me.</p><p>Capacity: Yes, as I said, I have taken out 3 birds with 3 shots, yet I have never taken 3 birds with 2 shots. I understand the whole, "Im in it for the hunt." But in all honesty, both my dogs, and I would rather be drinking beer and tossing dummies than walking through uneven ground. Im out there to take what I need, then go home and eat.</p><p></p><p>Everything I have stated is a fact. I never stated that 12ga on a fixed breech is too much. I just said the recoil will be more than a gas operated semi auto. I never stated you need the extra shot, I did state the capacity was limiting. I never said a person cant be just as accurate with an O/U, I said there is a convergence of patterning issue (which any pro, and by pro Im talking about the guys getting paid to compete, not club shoots, will agree).</p><p></p><p>So, whos getting upset? Take the time to read my posts, then come back and discuss it... <img src="/images/smilies/hyper.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hyper:" title="Hyper :hyper:" data-shortname=":hyper:" /></p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to deter anyone from owning an O/U. I have a lot of money tied up in them. But I would hate to see anyone go out and buy a $2500-$15,000 shotgun and find out they dont like it. Its a lot easier to turn around and sell a $400-700 used O/U than anyone of them thats in the 1500+ range.</p><p></p><p>Now as far as weighted balance, well, thats just a preference isnt it? I've said it once, I cant tell much of a difference in my high end shotgun, beit my overunders or my semi-autos. However, I will tell you, I have heard many people complain after several rounds of skeet, or making the rounds at all the stations doing sporting clays that their light O/U is wearing them out. I know when my uncle first got me into competitions back in the 80s, I could tell the difference in fatigue caused by fixed breech and light weight. Unfortunately, my uncle said the O/U would make a man out of me so I didnt start shooting SAs in competition till I was in my late teens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WhiteyMacD, post: 1260763, member: 7633"] I wasnt getting upset. I was offering what I knew from 8 years of competitive experience and 20+ years of hunting experience. I have no issues with over and unders since I have been shooting them since I was 10. But to counter your talk here: Accuracy: I corrected my use of the term accuracy. Pattern convergence is an issue with any dual barrel system. You dont have to believe me, ask the pros. Recoil: I never said a 12 ga from a fixed breech is too much for *me*. I shoot a lot larger than 12 ga from over/unders and breakovers no problem. However, not everyone is me. Capacity: Yes, as I said, I have taken out 3 birds with 3 shots, yet I have never taken 3 birds with 2 shots. I understand the whole, "Im in it for the hunt." But in all honesty, both my dogs, and I would rather be drinking beer and tossing dummies than walking through uneven ground. Im out there to take what I need, then go home and eat. Everything I have stated is a fact. I never stated that 12ga on a fixed breech is too much. I just said the recoil will be more than a gas operated semi auto. I never stated you need the extra shot, I did state the capacity was limiting. I never said a person cant be just as accurate with an O/U, I said there is a convergence of patterning issue (which any pro, and by pro Im talking about the guys getting paid to compete, not club shoots, will agree). So, whos getting upset? Take the time to read my posts, then come back and discuss it... :hyper: I'm not trying to deter anyone from owning an O/U. I have a lot of money tied up in them. But I would hate to see anyone go out and buy a $2500-$15,000 shotgun and find out they dont like it. Its a lot easier to turn around and sell a $400-700 used O/U than anyone of them thats in the 1500+ range. Now as far as weighted balance, well, thats just a preference isnt it? I've said it once, I cant tell much of a difference in my high end shotgun, beit my overunders or my semi-autos. However, I will tell you, I have heard many people complain after several rounds of skeet, or making the rounds at all the stations doing sporting clays that their light O/U is wearing them out. I know when my uncle first got me into competitions back in the 80s, I could tell the difference in fatigue caused by fixed breech and light weight. Unfortunately, my uncle said the O/U would make a man out of me so I didnt start shooting SAs in competition till I was in my late teens. [/QUOTE]
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