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<blockquote data-quote="druryj" data-source="post: 3314526" data-attributes="member: 10465"><p>[USER=7900]@TerryMiller[/USER]; this is true. In fact, almost all US, European, Asian, and World History texts fall into this category. Look at books on the Revolutionary Period, and the Founding of the Nation for example. None of us was here. So, in studying and writing history, much credence is given to "original source material" - notes, diaries, letters, maps and such from people who actually lived in the time and through certain events. In many cases, one simply chooses the outcome you want, or the position or view you want to present and them back it up with the source materials that suit your purpose, while discarding those that don't.</p><p></p><p>The American Revolution wasn't what many think it was. Many if not most of the Colonists were loyal to the Crown, and simply wanted to live as <em>British Subjects</em> in peace, and farm their plot of land. But corruption among the British Governors and their folks led to increasing acts of revolt by radical revolutionary groups, and the British retaliation forced many to choose a side. The British responses to those colonists who <em>did </em>resist was often brutal and often with no regard to actual British law, serving to alienate a growing number of colonists who <em>just wanted the same rights as those subjects in Englan</em>d. Many joined militia groups as protection against marauding Indians, who also just wanted to live in peace but were being forced further and further out. The Indians often chose sides that best met their goals and needs at the time, with no regard to politics. What is one left to do when faced with dislocation or seizure of property but eventually resist? You can only push people <em>who have the means to resist so far</em>, after all. So the British pushed, and pushed. And pushed harder. And the colonists increasingly pushed back. As it were, the British decided it was economically unfeasible to continue to fight the rag-tag group of colonists who were actually becoming a drain and liability on Mother England anyway, so they said to hell with it and went home, leaving the colonists to fight with themselves and the Indians, in a land to far away and which was becoming increasingly difficult to govern and support.</p><p></p><p>So did we win a war of independence or did we simply inherit a discarded European idea which somehow still managed to grow and thrive? </p><p></p><p>Thank God we don't have oppressive authorities or a group of citizens who are resisting them in this country today right? Imagine what would happen if such a group of oppressive authorities were to push too hard today. Why, who in their wildest dreams could ever imagine a politically motivated leftist group seizing power of say...The State of Virginia and attempting to thwart the US Constitution? Of actually attempting to take away the cherished freedoms many have come to expect? Isn't that silly to even imagine something like that could happen?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="druryj, post: 3314526, member: 10465"] [USER=7900]@TerryMiller[/USER]; this is true. In fact, almost all US, European, Asian, and World History texts fall into this category. Look at books on the Revolutionary Period, and the Founding of the Nation for example. None of us was here. So, in studying and writing history, much credence is given to "original source material" - notes, diaries, letters, maps and such from people who actually lived in the time and through certain events. In many cases, one simply chooses the outcome you want, or the position or view you want to present and them back it up with the source materials that suit your purpose, while discarding those that don't. The American Revolution wasn't what many think it was. Many if not most of the Colonists were loyal to the Crown, and simply wanted to live as [I]British Subjects[/I] in peace, and farm their plot of land. But corruption among the British Governors and their folks led to increasing acts of revolt by radical revolutionary groups, and the British retaliation forced many to choose a side. The British responses to those colonists who [I]did [/I]resist was often brutal and often with no regard to actual British law, serving to alienate a growing number of colonists who [I]just wanted the same rights as those subjects in Englan[/I]d. Many joined militia groups as protection against marauding Indians, who also just wanted to live in peace but were being forced further and further out. The Indians often chose sides that best met their goals and needs at the time, with no regard to politics. What is one left to do when faced with dislocation or seizure of property but eventually resist? You can only push people [I]who have the means to resist so far[/I], after all. So the British pushed, and pushed. And pushed harder. And the colonists increasingly pushed back. As it were, the British decided it was economically unfeasible to continue to fight the rag-tag group of colonists who were actually becoming a drain and liability on Mother England anyway, so they said to hell with it and went home, leaving the colonists to fight with themselves and the Indians, in a land to far away and which was becoming increasingly difficult to govern and support. So did we win a war of independence or did we simply inherit a discarded European idea which somehow still managed to grow and thrive? Thank God we don't have oppressive authorities or a group of citizens who are resisting them in this country today right? Imagine what would happen if such a group of oppressive authorities were to push too hard today. Why, who in their wildest dreams could ever imagine a politically motivated leftist group seizing power of say...The State of Virginia and attempting to thwart the US Constitution? Of actually attempting to take away the cherished freedoms many have come to expect? Isn't that silly to even imagine something like that could happen? [/QUOTE]
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