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<blockquote data-quote="Murph" data-source="post: 2035163" data-attributes="member: 8602"><p>I can see that. My viewpoint is that we don't have a lot of wiggle room in what we can safely be conceded. That making concessions are what has caused the problems in the first place. But I'm willing to agree to disagree=) </p><p></p><p>But I do agree that there may be more that we can do in making sure the violent mentally ill people are discovered and treated before they have a psychotic break. </p><p></p><p>I don't know if I'm ok with letting someone with a criminal lifestyle buy a gun, although from a constitutional standpoint the idea might run afoul of the 4th and 5th amendment, but IANAL.</p><p>I agree completely that depending on criminals to tell the truth when buying a gun is nonsense. Yet another 'sounds like a solution' but is 'really a waste time', fig leaf. I wonder sometimes if letting these<em> does nothing but provide a soundbite non-solutions</em> being allowed to stand without challenge might be doing more harm to our country than the spree killers. Not just the time they take away from trying to figure out what reforms might actually work, but also as blocks to keep us from trying things that might actually work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Murph, post: 2035163, member: 8602"] I can see that. My viewpoint is that we don't have a lot of wiggle room in what we can safely be conceded. That making concessions are what has caused the problems in the first place. But I'm willing to agree to disagree=) But I do agree that there may be more that we can do in making sure the violent mentally ill people are discovered and treated before they have a psychotic break. I don't know if I'm ok with letting someone with a criminal lifestyle buy a gun, although from a constitutional standpoint the idea might run afoul of the 4th and 5th amendment, but IANAL. I agree completely that depending on criminals to tell the truth when buying a gun is nonsense. Yet another 'sounds like a solution' but is 'really a waste time', fig leaf. I wonder sometimes if letting these[i] does nothing but provide a soundbite non-solutions[/i] being allowed to stand without challenge might be doing more harm to our country than the spree killers. Not just the time they take away from trying to figure out what reforms might actually work, but also as blocks to keep us from trying things that might actually work. [/QUOTE]
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