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<blockquote data-quote="Rez Exelon" data-source="post: 3553087" data-attributes="member: 5800"><p>UPDATE:</p><p>I have now successfully run two boxes of ammo through without failure. And as it turns out the fix makes me hate Browning EVEN MORE. </p><p></p><p>So after getting it back with nothing done to it (maybe I hoped that a last second change of heart would happen, I dunno) I decided screw it, I might as well start playing around. What am I gonna do --- screw it up? I made some dummy rounds without primer/powder and started working them. It took about an hour of playing, tearing down, putting together, rinse, repeat, before I caught on that the issue was definitely the round being out of alignment --- but it was NOT what anyone here thought. It turns out it was the .... drummmmm roolllllll <strong>STUPID PIECE OF CRAP EXTRACTOR!</strong>. </p><p></p><p>It seems the problem was that the extractor was bent slightly too far inward and what was happening is that as the round moved up from the mag and moving toward the chamber, the rim goes under the extractor right? But because the extractor was bent it, it was putting too much pressure on the rim of the case and not allowing it to move freely. So as soon as that engaged the movement would slow down and the round would wind up out of position as it tried to feed up the ramp into the chamber.</p><p></p><p>My first clue I was on the right path was that taking the extractor out was a pain....a lot of pressure to pull it out of the slow. So after I took the extractor out, gripped it with some pliers and fixed the bend. Just literally <em>ever so slightly</em> had to move it. When I went to put it in, all the pressure I had to use to get it out was unnecessary --- it just dropped in place. Instantly all the dummy rounds fed silky smooth. Took it to the range today and ran 2 boxes of mixed ammo through with no issues.</p><p></p><p>Now, was that worth $176 they wanted??? I'm a super 1911 noob and it took me an hour. 6 weeks and all the BS for what would probably have taken a 1911-competent person (let alone a gunsmith or repair tech) about 5-10 minutes probably. My assessment still stands --- I do not want any more Browning in my life after this bull honky.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rez Exelon, post: 3553087, member: 5800"] UPDATE: I have now successfully run two boxes of ammo through without failure. And as it turns out the fix makes me hate Browning EVEN MORE. So after getting it back with nothing done to it (maybe I hoped that a last second change of heart would happen, I dunno) I decided screw it, I might as well start playing around. What am I gonna do --- screw it up? I made some dummy rounds without primer/powder and started working them. It took about an hour of playing, tearing down, putting together, rinse, repeat, before I caught on that the issue was definitely the round being out of alignment --- but it was NOT what anyone here thought. It turns out it was the .... drummmmm roolllllll [B]STUPID PIECE OF CRAP EXTRACTOR![/B]. It seems the problem was that the extractor was bent slightly too far inward and what was happening is that as the round moved up from the mag and moving toward the chamber, the rim goes under the extractor right? But because the extractor was bent it, it was putting too much pressure on the rim of the case and not allowing it to move freely. So as soon as that engaged the movement would slow down and the round would wind up out of position as it tried to feed up the ramp into the chamber. My first clue I was on the right path was that taking the extractor out was a pain....a lot of pressure to pull it out of the slow. So after I took the extractor out, gripped it with some pliers and fixed the bend. Just literally [I]ever so slightly[/I] had to move it. When I went to put it in, all the pressure I had to use to get it out was unnecessary --- it just dropped in place. Instantly all the dummy rounds fed silky smooth. Took it to the range today and ran 2 boxes of mixed ammo through with no issues. Now, was that worth $176 they wanted??? I'm a super 1911 noob and it took me an hour. 6 weeks and all the BS for what would probably have taken a 1911-competent person (let alone a gunsmith or repair tech) about 5-10 minutes probably. My assessment still stands --- I do not want any more Browning in my life after this bull honky. [/QUOTE]
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