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<blockquote data-quote="wawazat" data-source="post: 3561272" data-attributes="member: 35603"><p>I think the response to resistance is going to vary day to day and person to person. </p><p></p><p>I am not saying this is apples to apples, but my mind always goes back to growing up on the farm. Occasionally we would end up with some WILD livestock that came from Eastern Oklahoma and likely only saw people the day they were turned out and the day they got rounded up and sent to auction. When being charged by an animal that clearly valued their comfort over your physical well being, I never knew until the moment of decision whether I was going to stand my ground and make noise or bolt for the closest tree. Even after the fact I couldn't tell you what determined which plan I went with, but I am still here so it must've worked out.</p><p></p><p>I'd imagine the same thing happens to most anyone that is routinely exposed to real physical danger. Under duress, our brain is making thousands of assessments consciously and subconsciously to try and make the decision that leaves us upright after the threat is over. If someone resists with force, they can expect to be shot and should be grateful if they aren't. If someone tries to flee, they should expect to be judged on the threat potential derived from their past actions. If they have shown to have little regard for their fellow citizens physical well being, they may be shot. If they stole money without assault, I would have a tough time siding with an officer shooting someone in the back. </p><p></p><p>I still believe we owe it to our officers to provide them with adequate tools to give them confidence while carrying out their duties. I see a lot of officers that couldn't work their way out of a wet paper bag and they should not be allowed to wear a badge. I have heard of LEO's that are uncomfortable with firearms or with conflict. Both of these things should disqualify someone from being a police officer. It also seems that outside of the initial training, any continued training or education is minimal outside of the most basic of requirements. Would a lot of these scenarios where an officer is met with 1:1 unarmed resistance turn out a lot different if the officer was well trained and confident in something like jiu jitsu or other martial art focused on controlling the threat?</p><p></p><p>Also, please take any of my opinions above with a tablespoon of salt. I have not ever been in a law enforcement or security type position other than handling folks that got a little too drunk and hostile at the bar I worked at in college and a few years rolling around with repo guys.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wawazat, post: 3561272, member: 35603"] I think the response to resistance is going to vary day to day and person to person. I am not saying this is apples to apples, but my mind always goes back to growing up on the farm. Occasionally we would end up with some WILD livestock that came from Eastern Oklahoma and likely only saw people the day they were turned out and the day they got rounded up and sent to auction. When being charged by an animal that clearly valued their comfort over your physical well being, I never knew until the moment of decision whether I was going to stand my ground and make noise or bolt for the closest tree. Even after the fact I couldn't tell you what determined which plan I went with, but I am still here so it must've worked out. I'd imagine the same thing happens to most anyone that is routinely exposed to real physical danger. Under duress, our brain is making thousands of assessments consciously and subconsciously to try and make the decision that leaves us upright after the threat is over. If someone resists with force, they can expect to be shot and should be grateful if they aren't. If someone tries to flee, they should expect to be judged on the threat potential derived from their past actions. If they have shown to have little regard for their fellow citizens physical well being, they may be shot. If they stole money without assault, I would have a tough time siding with an officer shooting someone in the back. I still believe we owe it to our officers to provide them with adequate tools to give them confidence while carrying out their duties. I see a lot of officers that couldn't work their way out of a wet paper bag and they should not be allowed to wear a badge. I have heard of LEO's that are uncomfortable with firearms or with conflict. Both of these things should disqualify someone from being a police officer. It also seems that outside of the initial training, any continued training or education is minimal outside of the most basic of requirements. Would a lot of these scenarios where an officer is met with 1:1 unarmed resistance turn out a lot different if the officer was well trained and confident in something like jiu jitsu or other martial art focused on controlling the threat? Also, please take any of my opinions above with a tablespoon of salt. I have not ever been in a law enforcement or security type position other than handling folks that got a little too drunk and hostile at the bar I worked at in college and a few years rolling around with repo guys. [/QUOTE]
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