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<blockquote data-quote="Billybob" data-source="post: 3997449" data-attributes="member: 1294"><p>I agree there are issues regarding the parents and I am in no way defending them, in fact I've been clear in the past that some of our society isn't fit to parent/have kids. And nobody said the school should have the kid committed but if it's true he exhibited signs and was not reported to child services or authorities who's fault is that?</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://kfor.com/news/oxford-shooting-school-should-have-flagged-students-concerning-behavior-expert-says/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow[/URL]</p><p></p><p>It's also being reported that the sheriff said the school should have had the school officer involved and reported the kid to authorities but didn't.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/12/03/sheriff-believes-oxford-high-school-should-have-told-police-about-suspects-behavior-before-shooting/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>How many school shooters sent up red flags but were ignored? Parkland is the prime example and it seems we've learned nothing from it. Reports about the shooter's prior acts excused by the school's diversion program which seemed to function as a cover for problem kid's actions and the school's image were quickly denied then ignored, and remember he was also reported to social services and other authorities yet nothing was done.</p><p> </p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/14/nikolas-cruz-violated-obamas-promise-diversion-pro/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>The school system knew of his issues in middle school..."one Westglades teacher feared Cruz so much that she would not have him in her classroom unless an assistant principal or behavior specialist was present"...</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://apnews.com/article/education-florida-fort-lauderdale-parkland-school-shooting-nikolas-cruz-0af8d0a431b44d2912324dc250afee88[/URL]</p><p></p><p>So the question remains, when should a school expel a kid and at what point should they be liable if they don't? Drugs, psych issues, gang activity, assault, bringing a gun to school? When does the safety of the other kids and school staff outweigh helping (excusing?) problem kids?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Billybob, post: 3997449, member: 1294"] I agree there are issues regarding the parents and I am in no way defending them, in fact I've been clear in the past that some of our society isn't fit to parent/have kids. And nobody said the school should have the kid committed but if it's true he exhibited signs and was not reported to child services or authorities who's fault is that? [URL unfurl="true"]https://kfor.com/news/oxford-shooting-school-should-have-flagged-students-concerning-behavior-expert-says/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow[/URL] It's also being reported that the sheriff said the school should have had the school officer involved and reported the kid to authorities but didn't. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/12/03/sheriff-believes-oxford-high-school-should-have-told-police-about-suspects-behavior-before-shooting/[/URL] How many school shooters sent up red flags but were ignored? Parkland is the prime example and it seems we've learned nothing from it. Reports about the shooter's prior acts excused by the school's diversion program which seemed to function as a cover for problem kid's actions and the school's image were quickly denied then ignored, and remember he was also reported to social services and other authorities yet nothing was done. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/14/nikolas-cruz-violated-obamas-promise-diversion-pro/[/URL] The school system knew of his issues in middle school..."one Westglades teacher feared Cruz so much that she would not have him in her classroom unless an assistant principal or behavior specialist was present"... [URL unfurl="true"]https://apnews.com/article/education-florida-fort-lauderdale-parkland-school-shooting-nikolas-cruz-0af8d0a431b44d2912324dc250afee88[/URL] So the question remains, when should a school expel a kid and at what point should they be liable if they don't? Drugs, psych issues, gang activity, assault, bringing a gun to school? When does the safety of the other kids and school staff outweigh helping (excusing?) problem kids? [/QUOTE]
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