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<blockquote data-quote="Jcann" data-source="post: 3390764" data-attributes="member: 33119"><p>I've come to the conclusion that handloading for accurate distant steel work and hunting can be achieved without measuring in the ten-thousands of an inch. Don't get me wrong, there is certainly nothing more rewarding than handloading and achieving a zero moa group with both a zero SD and ES. I've never seen it or heard of it but I'm sure that fairy dusted unicorn is out there somewhere.</p><p></p><p>There are so many variables in handloading it boggles the mind. Mitigating one or two is a start but there are a host of others. Not to mention the possibility of tolerance stacking due to brass thickness, hardness, temperature, spring back, etc. I doubt any of us would spend the money necessary to purchase a high quality set of calipers or any set of quality measuring instruments necessary to measure in the thousands not to mention in the ten-thousands. And if we did are we using them properly?</p><p></p><p>I went down the road you're traveling after my rifle was first built. Weight sorting brass, measuring and sorting bullets (length/ogive/bearing surface/weight), setting shoulder's back, trimming and turning necks to ten-thousands of an inch, reaming primer pockets, chamfering flash holes and necks, measuring concentricity....on and on and on I went chasing that dusted unicorn. After a while, I came to the realization, I'm not a good enough shooter to hit that damn unicorn. There are even added variables in the shooting process, not to mention the weapon I'm using. It wasn't even fun trying, I would rather spend more time shooting than at the reloading bench. So I gave up, applied what I needed to achieve the level of accuracy to accomplish my mission and carried on. I tip my hat to those F class shooters that can shoot sub MOA groups at a 1000 yards, I just wonder if that same level of OCD goes into their hunting reloads. I also tip my hat to you for trying as well. You will certainly learn a lot in this endeavor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jcann, post: 3390764, member: 33119"] I've come to the conclusion that handloading for accurate distant steel work and hunting can be achieved without measuring in the ten-thousands of an inch. Don't get me wrong, there is certainly nothing more rewarding than handloading and achieving a zero moa group with both a zero SD and ES. I've never seen it or heard of it but I'm sure that fairy dusted unicorn is out there somewhere. There are so many variables in handloading it boggles the mind. Mitigating one or two is a start but there are a host of others. Not to mention the possibility of tolerance stacking due to brass thickness, hardness, temperature, spring back, etc. I doubt any of us would spend the money necessary to purchase a high quality set of calipers or any set of quality measuring instruments necessary to measure in the thousands not to mention in the ten-thousands. And if we did are we using them properly? I went down the road you're traveling after my rifle was first built. Weight sorting brass, measuring and sorting bullets (length/ogive/bearing surface/weight), setting shoulder's back, trimming and turning necks to ten-thousands of an inch, reaming primer pockets, chamfering flash holes and necks, measuring concentricity....on and on and on I went chasing that dusted unicorn. After a while, I came to the realization, I'm not a good enough shooter to hit that damn unicorn. There are even added variables in the shooting process, not to mention the weapon I'm using. It wasn't even fun trying, I would rather spend more time shooting than at the reloading bench. So I gave up, applied what I needed to achieve the level of accuracy to accomplish my mission and carried on. I tip my hat to those F class shooters that can shoot sub MOA groups at a 1000 yards, I just wonder if that same level of OCD goes into their hunting reloads. I also tip my hat to you for trying as well. You will certainly learn a lot in this endeavor. [/QUOTE]
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