Casinos and Stitt

[BReeves]

Surprised there isn't a thread on what is going on with the Casinos and Stitt. One would think the contract would spell out if it auto renewed or not. In any case my personal opinion is Stitt should leave the Indians alone but I only know what they are telling me on the news.

 

[Dumpstick]

Oklahoma made a deal with the Tribes about 15 years ago.

The Tribes would give the State "x" amount of money from the take, in exchange the State would not allow any other casinos to operate.

The agreement had a 15 year contract. One side says it auto-renews, the other says it doesn't.

Stitt wants more money.

That's the argument.

ETA: the way I see this ending - the Tribes give a bit more, the State has more money to waste.
The casino monopoly is too valuable to give up.

 

[mr ed]

From what was said on the radio. The other states that have deals with the tribes are getting 3-4 times as much money and Stitt wants to bring Okla income inline with what others are getting.

 

[Cohiba]

Here's an idea....

If the contract is broken then allow nontribal casinos like other states.

Same money from the tribes AND money from non tribal casino.

Why in the world there is a museum at I-35&I-40????

If they think a museum will attract people MORE than a casino just stand outside a casino on the weekend -vs- a museum on the weekend....who attracts and makes more money/taxes???

Do it like other states...nontribal over water...tribal on their land.

If I'm not mistaken...the OKC area was unassigned land way back when...so it shouldn't interfere with the tribes.

Attract more people in the brick town area with a museum or casino...I know what would/will get my money.

 

[tRidiot]

So the tribes are all big on how no one can tell them what to do on their land, they're independent 'nations', etc. So they can do what they want, right?

So what makes them think they can tell Oklahoma what to do?

Personally, considering how much money the tribes have, I've seen some of what they do with it (or don't do, when it comes to healthcare for 'their people'), I say eff 'em.

Open up casinos to other folks, not just tribes.

 

[Fyrtwuck]

Agreed, it’s all about the money. My question is where has the money been going? Every state agency and employee active and retired in the directory (me included, retired category, paid by the state) have been begging for money for years.

I’ve seen very little in road improvements. Mainly short strips with a trooper sitting on each end hours at a time and DOT pickups with lights flashing driving from one end to the other and “workers” leaning on shovels or talking in groups.

I keep hearing about a multi-million dollar “rainy day fund”. What is that? What is it used for?

 

[tRidiot]

I'm thinking lots of folks getting lucrative contracts for work with the state and ODOT, while teachers and kids do without books and with horrendous school conditions, state hospitals and mental health services fall off into the abyss and protective agencies like DHS have fewer and fewer agents to handle caseloads that continue to balloon year after year and kids and vulnerable adults fall through the cracks and just flat... well... die.

But we got nice marble on the floors in the Capitol buildings. And lots of committees with catered lunches and people jetting off to Washington to 'lobby' for Oklahoma's interests... supposedly.

 

[Hangfire]

Never been in a casino any where in the world and have no intentions of doing so......I have nothing against them nor do I have any problems with those that do frequent them it just ain't my thing.

Now back to the subject......@tRidiot pretty much summarized my feelings in two short words, "eff' em".

 

[corneileous]

I’m glad somebody started a topic on this because I was really curious what the real problem was at hand, rather than just a bunch of natives who thought they were over-privileged.

But in response to what another poster said, if what the tribes around here are paying is much less that other states then they oughta pay up. It’s not like they can’t afford it. Oklahoma’s kind of a poor state anyways. If they feel they oughta be able to operate the way they do, then open up those wallets and share a little bit more of those proceeds...lol.

But how come that Lisa Billy chick resigned? What does she know that we don’t? I mean, I know opinions vary all the time but the way she made it sound was that Governor Stitt was being just so totally unreasonable and unfair.




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[BobbyV]

Surprised there isn't a thread on what is going on with the Casinos and Stitt. One would think the contract would spell out if it auto renewed or not. In any case my personal opinion is Stitt should leave the Indians alone but I only know what they are telling me on the news.

This thread sort of morphed into a discussion about it . . . .