My nephew is planning a visit and he comes from a state where he legally carries both open and concealed in his home state at 18, can he still carry in OK on his visit?
I'm going to say no since you have to be 21 per our state laws.
Have to follow the laws of the State you are in.
Where precisely in the statute does it say that, because it appears to me that an 18yo from a non-permitting state would be legal carrying concealed, but not open under 21 § 1290.26
TITLE 21 § 1290.26 RECIPROCAL AGREEMENT AUTHORITY
The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state, or if the state is a nonpermitting carry state, this state shall reciprocate under the permitting law of that state.
A. Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state.
B. Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed carry upon the authority of a state that is a nonpermitted carry state and the person is in compliance with the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, the person is authorized to carry a concealed firearm in this state. The firearm must be carried fully concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed firearm pursuant to the nonpermitting laws of the state in which he or she is a legal resident. The person shall present proper identification by a valid photo ID as proof that he or she is a legal resident in such a non-permitting state. The Department of Public Safety shall keep a current list of non- permitting states for law enforcement officers to confirm that a state is nonpermitting.
C. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.
The State of Oklahoma hereby recognizes any valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued by another state, or if the state is a nonpermitting carry state, this state shall reciprocate under the permitting law of that state.
A. Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed or unconcealed carry upon the authority and license of another state is authorized to continue to carry a concealed or unconcealed firearm and license in this state; provided the license from the other state remains valid. The firearm must either be carried unconcealed or concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed or unconcealed firearm pursuant to a valid concealed or unconcealed carry weapons permit or license issued in another state.
B. Any person entering this state in possession of a firearm authorized for concealed carry upon the authority of a state that is a nonpermitted carry state and the person is in compliance with the Oklahoma Self-Defense Act, the person is authorized to carry a concealed firearm in this state. The firearm must be carried fully concealed from detection and view, and upon coming in contact with any peace officer of this state, the person must disclose the fact that he or she is in possession of a concealed firearm pursuant to the nonpermitting laws of the state in which he or she is a legal resident. The person shall present proper identification by a valid photo ID as proof that he or she is a legal resident in such a non-permitting state. The Department of Public Safety shall keep a current list of non- permitting states for law enforcement officers to confirm that a state is nonpermitting.
C. Any person who is twenty-one (21) years of age or older having a valid firearm license from another state may apply for a handgun license in this state immediately upon establishing a residence in this state.
This just recently became an issue for a couple of states (MO, TX) that lost reciprocal standing with Minnesota due to changing the laws in TX & MO to allow licensing of 19-year-old military members/veterans. MN law says no licensing under 21 and reciprocal state laws have to essentially mirror MN law in order to be reciprocal.
More about the changes in MN reciprocity list.
http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2015/08/mn-minnesota-posts-new-ccw-reciprocity.html
The Minnesota Department of Public Safety has posted the new reciprocity list for the State, in order to meet the requirements of the gun law reform passed in 2015. As expected of an appointee of an openly disarmist governor, the list approved by the Commissioner of Public Safety is very restrictive, removing four states for minor differences in the law, and adding eight states or state permits that have limited numbers.
The additional eight states permits now be recognized by the State of Minnesota are: Delaware, Idaho (enhanced permit), Illinois, New Jersey, North Dakota (enhanced permit), Rhode Island, South Carolina, and South Dakota (enhanced permit).
States previously recognized, and still recognized, are: Alaska, Arkansas, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, and Tennessee.
Missouri, Texas, Wyoming, and Utah are no longer recognized by Minnesota.
While more state permits are now recognized by Minnesota, the disarmists may be smiling; they have managed to disqualify more permit holders than they recognized.
The permit holders with Missouri, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming permits total 1,645,000. The permits added total about 377,000. About a million and a quarter permit holders just lost reciprocity for their permit in Minnesota. I suspect that is not what the legislature intended.
The disarmist smiles may be short lived. The gun culture in Minnesota demonstrated its clout when it was able to have the gun reform bill attached to the State budget, thereby avoiding Governor Dayton's veto.
I suspect legislators will not be happy with the creative logic used by the Commissioner of the Department of Public Safety.
Substantially similar is a lower standard than "identical" and similar is a lower standard than "substantially similar". If Minnesota follows the track of other states that have reformed their carry laws, the next step will be to recognize permits from all other states and territories, without giving the Department of Public Safety any discretion in the matter.
Definition of disarmist
©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
I read Dean's stuff on Free Republic where he posts as "Mark Twain" and have interacted with him via PM in the past. I appreciate his perspective and reporting on firearms issues and have also seen him miss the mark. He may eventually turn out to be right with his conclusion on this action by the MN DPS Commissioner after the Legislature grabs him by the short hairs. This will take some time and will require the expenditure of political capital. In the meantime, the licensed carriers from those 4 states will be SOL for probably about a year, minimum.
For those wanting to look at the MN website on this: https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/bca-divisions/administrative/Pages/permit-to-carry-reciprocity.aspx
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