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Century Arms AP5 vs PTR's (MP5 Clones)
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<blockquote data-quote="ten22sday" data-source="post: 3879472" data-attributes="member: 47628"><p>PTR is made in the US and is a clone of the MP5. It has a single pin lower so it won't accept regular full auto trigger packs but if you have a transferable Fleming sear pack (which are expensive af) then it's ready to have that drop in and rock and roll. I used to own a PTR 9CT and enjoyed it, but it had its fair share of issues most notably that spent casings would somehow find their way down into the trigger housing and get stuck occasionally. Additionally the PTR 9CT and 9C has a welded on picatinny rail which looks ugly and out of place to some, whereas the normal MP5 design is bare and requires a claw mount to put an optic on. The PTR comes with an aluminum M-Lok rail from the factory and the 9CT is both 1/2x28 threaded with a tri-lug mount while the 9C is just tri-lug.</p><p></p><p>The AP5 is made in Turkey by MKE on HK equipment that was contracted out back in the 70s. They used to be imported by Zenith but the contract fell through a couple years ago and now Century is the importer for them. The main reason the AP5 had such a price drop is that the Turkish economy is in the shitter and the value of their currency devalued hard against the US dollar, as well as the market outright rejecting Century's initial offering price of $2500 when they first hit the shelves a year ago. Additionally the AP5 is a two-pin lower, so it will accept full auto trigger packs but there is a shelf welded into the receiver that will block the use of a full-auto profile bolt carrier, so even if you have a registered sear pack you would need to make permanent modifications to the firearm to make it full auto. The AP5 comes with a plastic slimline handguard like the original 70s version and has a 1/2x28 threaded barrel along with the regular trilug mount.</p><p></p><p>I just bought an AP5 and have so far put about 400-500 rounds of 124 and 115 grain ammo through it. I've had one failure to eject and one failure to feed within the first 200 rounds, and since then nothing. My range buddy has a genuine HK SP5 that he got back when those first hit the market at the beginning of 2020 and we were comparing the two to each other at the range; there was very little different between the two sans that the AP5 says 'Made in Turkey' and the SP5 says 'Made in Germany'.</p><p></p><p>Century offers the normal bundle AP5 that comes with two magazines, a nice case, sling, optic mount, and cleaning kit and at a much lower price they have the AP5 core that just comes with one magazine and a case. I bought the AP5 core at H&H as a bundle with the SB tactical folding brace and I love shooting it. I'd recommend the AP5 over the PTR personally, but that's because I prefer the look without the welded picatinny rail. From my experience and the experiences I've seen others have, either one should be just fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ten22sday, post: 3879472, member: 47628"] PTR is made in the US and is a clone of the MP5. It has a single pin lower so it won't accept regular full auto trigger packs but if you have a transferable Fleming sear pack (which are expensive af) then it's ready to have that drop in and rock and roll. I used to own a PTR 9CT and enjoyed it, but it had its fair share of issues most notably that spent casings would somehow find their way down into the trigger housing and get stuck occasionally. Additionally the PTR 9CT and 9C has a welded on picatinny rail which looks ugly and out of place to some, whereas the normal MP5 design is bare and requires a claw mount to put an optic on. The PTR comes with an aluminum M-Lok rail from the factory and the 9CT is both 1/2x28 threaded with a tri-lug mount while the 9C is just tri-lug. The AP5 is made in Turkey by MKE on HK equipment that was contracted out back in the 70s. They used to be imported by Zenith but the contract fell through a couple years ago and now Century is the importer for them. The main reason the AP5 had such a price drop is that the Turkish economy is in the shitter and the value of their currency devalued hard against the US dollar, as well as the market outright rejecting Century's initial offering price of $2500 when they first hit the shelves a year ago. Additionally the AP5 is a two-pin lower, so it will accept full auto trigger packs but there is a shelf welded into the receiver that will block the use of a full-auto profile bolt carrier, so even if you have a registered sear pack you would need to make permanent modifications to the firearm to make it full auto. The AP5 comes with a plastic slimline handguard like the original 70s version and has a 1/2x28 threaded barrel along with the regular trilug mount. I just bought an AP5 and have so far put about 400-500 rounds of 124 and 115 grain ammo through it. I've had one failure to eject and one failure to feed within the first 200 rounds, and since then nothing. My range buddy has a genuine HK SP5 that he got back when those first hit the market at the beginning of 2020 and we were comparing the two to each other at the range; there was very little different between the two sans that the AP5 says 'Made in Turkey' and the SP5 says 'Made in Germany'. Century offers the normal bundle AP5 that comes with two magazines, a nice case, sling, optic mount, and cleaning kit and at a much lower price they have the AP5 core that just comes with one magazine and a case. I bought the AP5 core at H&H as a bundle with the SB tactical folding brace and I love shooting it. I'd recommend the AP5 over the PTR personally, but that's because I prefer the look without the welded picatinny rail. From my experience and the experiences I've seen others have, either one should be just fine. [/QUOTE]
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