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<blockquote data-quote="nemesis" data-source="post: 2770577" data-attributes="member: 12082"><p>You're misusing the passage to which you allude. Romans 12:19 tells the individual Christian to not take personal vengeance upon wrongdoers. That has nothing to do with self defense for oneself or one's family, BTW. That's not what the passage discusses. </p><p></p><p>Romans 12:19 is a verse in a larger context that includes Romans 13. Romans 13 says the individual is to defer to the government for vengeance and retribution. The government is to be a terror to the evil workers we're discussing. The word for terror is "phobos" which is the root of "phobia." It's translated "alarm, fright, exceedingly, terror." This is how our government is supposed to respond to threats to our way of life. </p><p></p><p>When Gaddafi was sponsoring terrorism during Reagan's presidency, Reagan ordered a strike on Gaddafi's home. Gaddafi was so terrified that we bypassed his defenses he had procured from the Russians, terrorism sponsored by Gaddafi dropped off to nothing. </p><p></p><p>This is how our government is supposed to behave. You say leave it to God. God says that's why He instituted government. </p><p></p><p> God executes His vengeance, just like you said, except He does so through a competent government. </p><p></p><p>Our government, unfortunately, is incompetent. Our Commander In Chief is deliberately demoralizing our military while simultaneously bringing our enemies here by the millions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nemesis, post: 2770577, member: 12082"] You're misusing the passage to which you allude. Romans 12:19 tells the individual Christian to not take personal vengeance upon wrongdoers. That has nothing to do with self defense for oneself or one's family, BTW. That's not what the passage discusses. Romans 12:19 is a verse in a larger context that includes Romans 13. Romans 13 says the individual is to defer to the government for vengeance and retribution. The government is to be a terror to the evil workers we're discussing. The word for terror is "phobos" which is the root of "phobia." It's translated "alarm, fright, exceedingly, terror." This is how our government is supposed to respond to threats to our way of life. When Gaddafi was sponsoring terrorism during Reagan's presidency, Reagan ordered a strike on Gaddafi's home. Gaddafi was so terrified that we bypassed his defenses he had procured from the Russians, terrorism sponsored by Gaddafi dropped off to nothing. This is how our government is supposed to behave. You say leave it to God. God says that's why He instituted government. God executes His vengeance, just like you said, except He does so through a competent government. Our government, unfortunately, is incompetent. Our Commander In Chief is deliberately demoralizing our military while simultaneously bringing our enemies here by the millions. [/QUOTE]
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